Well my first batch went ok besides the fact that a) I mashed at 152 when recipe called for 150 b) when temp in my hlt dropped to around 150,i added 4 cups hot water temp didnt go up, added 4 more and nothin added 4 more and stirred then it shot up to 160 lol had to add 4 cups cold and back on money c) had good boil over during hot break d) typically do ice bath to cool but new pot wouldnt fit in sink and had to rack boilin hot liqued to my ferm bucket to cool in which melted my auto siphon. E) wort would not cool after four hours was still 150 had to let sit over night all in which my starter was ready to go ... All in all a good learnin experience and I have now made wort chiller lol my mlt works great lets about ten grains come through during vourlof after its crystal clear.. Least I got to catch a good homebrew buzz hehe