Yes AG isnt that hard it's that I dont have the time to steep grains and alsothe fact that the ones I want arnt readly available (is there a place in western Australia I can buy from), it's way to easy and consistent when using an extract! I also having trouble getting the desired hops I want (mainly Columbus) currently using amirillo and fugues apart from substituting to the common. If muntons is pre hopped it must be fairly mellow.