brewolero
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I have consistently had problems with head retention from my wheat beers. I brewed a batch of witbier utilizing S-33 yeast and 1/3 of the grain bill was raw wheat milled with the rest of the grain, as well as probably 10% pre-gelatinized oats. Recently I brewed a golden strong with the same grain proportions with T-58 yeast and AGAIN I pour it to no basically no head retention at all.
This has consistently been happening with the beers that have high proportions of wheat. Do I need to use something other than raw wheat berries that have been milled? My best head retention comes from all-malt pale ales. I could really use some help on this, it's driving me nuts. I know it's not glassware--I've already barked up that tree a few times to no seeming effect.
I've pasted the three recipes I've used this in and would love some help troubleshooting.
Witbier No. I
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 5.0
Total Grain (kg): 1.293
Total Hops (g): 5.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.051 (°P): 12.6
Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (°P): 3.3
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.01 %
Colour (SRM): 4.1 (EBC): 8.1
Bitterness (IBU): 13.2 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 65
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
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0.792 kg Pilsner (61.25%)
0.396 kg Flaked Wheat (30.63%)
0.079 kg Flaked Oats (6.11%)
0.026 kg Aromatic Malt (2.01%)
Hop Bill
-
5.0 g Willamette Pellet (4.7% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)
Misc Bill
-
8.0 g Coriander Seed @ 1 Minutes (Boil)
1.0 g Cumin @ 1 Minutes (Boil)
26.0 g Orange Peel @ 1 Minutes (Boil)
Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 27°C with Safbrew S-33
Honey Sage Golden Strong
Belgian Golden Strong Ale
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 19.0
Total Grain (kg): 7.500
Total Hops (g): 20.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.088 (°P): 21.1
Final Gravity (FG): 1.016 (°P): 4.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 9.48 %
Colour (SRM): 4.3 (EBC): 8.5
Bitterness (IBU): 28.3 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 65
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
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3.500 kg Pilsner (46.67%)
2.000 kg Flaked Wheat (Trigo)(26.67%)
1.000 kg Honey (13.33%)
0.500 kg Cane Sugar (6.67%)
0.500 kg Flaked Oats (Avena) (6.67%)
Hop Bill
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20.0 g Columbus Pellet (12% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.1 g/L)
Misc Bill
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38.0 g Sage (Salvia) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) Fresh sage = best
19.0 g Sage @ 0 Minutes (Boil)
Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 18°C with Safbrew T-58
Honey Sage Saison
Recipe Specs
Original Gravity Final Gravity Colour (SRM / EBC) Bitterness Alcohol by Volume
1.062 1.013 4.1
/
8.1 31.4 IBU 6.4%
Brewhouse Specs
Recipe Type Batch Size Boil Time Efficiency
All Grain 5.0 Litres / 1.3 Gal 60.0 min 65.0%
Fermentables
Name Type SRM Percentage Amount
Pilsner Grain 1.7 46.75 % 0.79 Kg / 1.75 Lbs
Flaked Wheat Adjunct 1.6 23.67 % 0.40 Kg / 0.87 Lbs
Cane Sugar Sugar 0.0 8.28 % 0.14 Kg / 0.30 Lbs
Flaked Oats Adjunct 1.0 4.73 % 0.08 Kg / 0.17 Lbs
Aromatic Malt Grain 20.0 1.67 % 0.03 Kg / 0.06 Lbs
Honey Sugar 1.0 14.79 % 0.25 Kg / 0.05 Lbs
1.69
Hops
Name AA% Amount Use Time
Palisade 7.8% 5.00 g / 0.18 oz Boil 60 mins
Palisade 7.8% 3.00 g / 0.11 oz Boil 30 mins
Palisade 7.8% 3.00 g / 0.11 oz Boil 10 mins
Misc
Name Amount Use Time
Sage 10.00 g / 0.35 oz Boil 10 mins
Sage 5.00 g / 0.18 oz Boil 0 mins
Yeast
Name Attenuation
Safbrew T-58 75 %
Mash Steps
Step Name Time Temperature Type
Saccharification Rest 60.0 min 66.0 °C / 150.8 °F Infusion
Notes
22 Sept 2012 Transferred to secondary. SG was at 1.010, so 6.9% ABV.Added 250 g of honey and bumped gravity up to 1.030. Actually around 3.7 L worth of drink. Depending on FG, I might dilute it down a bit.
25 Oct 2012 Well, my hydrometer broke. So lets assume its down to around 1.008 or so. 3.350 L were collected, bottled, and carbonated with 31 g table sugar. Probably around 9.8% ABV.
Later, cant remember the dates: After bottling, there was no carbonation at all. I emptied all the bottles back into a fermenter on top of a Lalvin 71B yeast cake for two weeks, then re-bottled it, sometime in early November. Then I managed to get carbonation.
This has consistently been happening with the beers that have high proportions of wheat. Do I need to use something other than raw wheat berries that have been milled? My best head retention comes from all-malt pale ales. I could really use some help on this, it's driving me nuts. I know it's not glassware--I've already barked up that tree a few times to no seeming effect.
I've pasted the three recipes I've used this in and would love some help troubleshooting.
Witbier No. I
Recipe Specs
-
Batch Size (L): 5.0
Total Grain (kg): 1.293
Total Hops (g): 5.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.051 (°P): 12.6
Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (°P): 3.3
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.01 %
Colour (SRM): 4.1 (EBC): 8.1
Bitterness (IBU): 13.2 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 65
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
-
0.792 kg Pilsner (61.25%)
0.396 kg Flaked Wheat (30.63%)
0.079 kg Flaked Oats (6.11%)
0.026 kg Aromatic Malt (2.01%)
Hop Bill
-
5.0 g Willamette Pellet (4.7% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)
Misc Bill
-
8.0 g Coriander Seed @ 1 Minutes (Boil)
1.0 g Cumin @ 1 Minutes (Boil)
26.0 g Orange Peel @ 1 Minutes (Boil)
Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 27°C with Safbrew S-33
Honey Sage Golden Strong
Belgian Golden Strong Ale
Recipe Specs
----------------
Batch Size (L): 19.0
Total Grain (kg): 7.500
Total Hops (g): 20.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.088 (°P): 21.1
Final Gravity (FG): 1.016 (°P): 4.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 9.48 %
Colour (SRM): 4.3 (EBC): 8.5
Bitterness (IBU): 28.3 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 65
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
----------------
3.500 kg Pilsner (46.67%)
2.000 kg Flaked Wheat (Trigo)(26.67%)
1.000 kg Honey (13.33%)
0.500 kg Cane Sugar (6.67%)
0.500 kg Flaked Oats (Avena) (6.67%)
Hop Bill
----------------
20.0 g Columbus Pellet (12% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.1 g/L)
Misc Bill
----------------
38.0 g Sage (Salvia) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) Fresh sage = best
19.0 g Sage @ 0 Minutes (Boil)
Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 18°C with Safbrew T-58
Honey Sage Saison
Recipe Specs
Original Gravity Final Gravity Colour (SRM / EBC) Bitterness Alcohol by Volume
1.062 1.013 4.1
/
8.1 31.4 IBU 6.4%
Brewhouse Specs
Recipe Type Batch Size Boil Time Efficiency
All Grain 5.0 Litres / 1.3 Gal 60.0 min 65.0%
Fermentables
Name Type SRM Percentage Amount
Pilsner Grain 1.7 46.75 % 0.79 Kg / 1.75 Lbs
Flaked Wheat Adjunct 1.6 23.67 % 0.40 Kg / 0.87 Lbs
Cane Sugar Sugar 0.0 8.28 % 0.14 Kg / 0.30 Lbs
Flaked Oats Adjunct 1.0 4.73 % 0.08 Kg / 0.17 Lbs
Aromatic Malt Grain 20.0 1.67 % 0.03 Kg / 0.06 Lbs
Honey Sugar 1.0 14.79 % 0.25 Kg / 0.05 Lbs
1.69
Hops
Name AA% Amount Use Time
Palisade 7.8% 5.00 g / 0.18 oz Boil 60 mins
Palisade 7.8% 3.00 g / 0.11 oz Boil 30 mins
Palisade 7.8% 3.00 g / 0.11 oz Boil 10 mins
Misc
Name Amount Use Time
Sage 10.00 g / 0.35 oz Boil 10 mins
Sage 5.00 g / 0.18 oz Boil 0 mins
Yeast
Name Attenuation
Safbrew T-58 75 %
Mash Steps
Step Name Time Temperature Type
Saccharification Rest 60.0 min 66.0 °C / 150.8 °F Infusion
Notes
22 Sept 2012 Transferred to secondary. SG was at 1.010, so 6.9% ABV.Added 250 g of honey and bumped gravity up to 1.030. Actually around 3.7 L worth of drink. Depending on FG, I might dilute it down a bit.
25 Oct 2012 Well, my hydrometer broke. So lets assume its down to around 1.008 or so. 3.350 L were collected, bottled, and carbonated with 31 g table sugar. Probably around 9.8% ABV.
Later, cant remember the dates: After bottling, there was no carbonation at all. I emptied all the bottles back into a fermenter on top of a Lalvin 71B yeast cake for two weeks, then re-bottled it, sometime in early November. Then I managed to get carbonation.