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Has anyone seen these new Coors Light commercials? Am I missing something, or are they really claiming you should drink their beer because it's colder than other beers?

Oh look! The label says cold, and then "super cold!" Wow!

Okay, fine. But the beer is being stored in the same damn cooler as the other beer, so what the hell? Did no one on the advertising team ever once say, "Hey, you know...this is pretty stupid. Are we really trying to sell more beer based on perceived temperature? Don't you think someone is going to realize that the beer is all in the same fridge at home, therefore will be the same temperature, and the only difference is a silly little label that happens to say 'super cold'?"

Seriously, did I miss something here? :confused:
 
I guess the only thing it's good for is if u put new beers in.. This way u know whats cold and what's just been set in there.. Idk
 
It and the "two stage cold activation" logos on the cans are actually based on some marketing research...silly assed market research, but research nonetheless.

Studies indicate more than 70 percent of legal-drinking-age men have put their beer in the freezer to achieve the desired level of cold. The trick is to know when to take the beer out. Now on Coors Light bottles and cans, the iconic mountains still turn blue when the beer is cold, and in addition, a new Cold Indicator bar will turn blue at the same time. Then, when the Coors Light temperature is at the peak of refreshment, a second Super Cold Indicator bar turns blue.

As an extension of the Two-Stage Cold Activation packaging launch, nearly 3,500 beer retailers who meet certain criteria to ensure Coors Light is Super Cold at the point of purchase will be "Super Cold Certified" this spring. The retailers will display a neon sign as evidence that the Coors Light in their store is Super Cold.

We can bash it all we want, but it is based on a premise that folks put beers in the freezer...I mean I do it when I end up getting beer from the craft beer store that's not cold and I can't wait...but evidently macro lager drinkers do it as well, and Coors decided to capitalize on it marketing wise.

The entire article can be read here From the Dept. of Weird: Even Colder Coors...
 
Ha, okay, I'm glad I didn't miss something obvious.

I was watching hulu the other day, and they kept repeating this same Coors Light commercial over and over and over, and I seriously started to think I was losing my mind. I'm sitting there thinking, "This makes no sense!"
 
It and the "two stage cold activation" logos on the cans are actually based on some marketing research...silly assed market research, but research nonetheless.



We can bash it all we want, but it is based on a premise that folks put beers in the freezer...I mean I do it when I end up getting beer from the craft beer store that's not cold and I can't wait...but evidently macro lager drinkers do it as well, and Coors decided to capitalize on it marketing wise.

The entire article can be read here From the Dept. of Weird: Even Colder Coors...

Ah ha...so that makes sense I guess. I mean, it makes sense assuming people realize that's what it's for. Obviously you read an article about it, but now I'm wondering if the average Joe buying a case of Coors knows that he can put it in the freezer until it says "super cold" and then take it out.

I guess they'll put two and two together. But it seems clear that the ad is selling beer on the premise that Coors gets colder than other beer, and not that the label can be used in the way you mentioned.

Wasn't bashing it necessarily. I just find it supremely "interesting" that someone will buy beer based on a label rather than on it's flavor. But hey, we all know marketing and advertising has a way of influencing consumer behavior, so I guess it's not that shocking after all.
 
I just find it supremely "interesting" that someone will buy beer based on a label rather than on it's flavor. But hey, we all know marketing and advertising has a way of influencing consumer behavior, so I guess it's not that shocking after all.

Yeah. But the thing is, and Maureen Ogle mentioned it in the basic brewing podcast when Ambitious Brew came out, in both the context of beer, and her next book on meat, the things that are mass consumed in western society be it beer, or food or booze, have the least amount of actual flavor; The light lager, the fast food hamburger and vodka for example. At the lowest end of the spectrum, be it bud light, or Mcdonalds, or absolute vodka- which are all hugely popular, none of them have complex flavor profiles, especially when you consider the "gourmet" opposite of those, a nice craft beer (even a craft lager) and burger from your favorite burger joint where they actually season the meat and use a higher fat content, and some of the higher end vodkas.

American society's tastes since WWII have kind of changed and splintered in two directions, you have Mass Culture and the culture that sprung craft beers, and foodie culture. Postwar America become a time of affluence, but it also became the time of "convenience food" instead of homecooking, the rise of frozen dinners and fast food (some folks would call that "pre-digested" food) which still goes on to this day. And the light lager is perfect for that. It's not "complex." It's sweet as opposed to bitter, it's light as opposed to heavy.

The irony of it has always been that even though the majority seems to favor "fast food" and "lite Beer" the postwar period also gave rise to "Chef/foodie Culture" and "Craft Beer" (actually it started as "imported" beer, but broadened in the 70's to 80's to the craft beer scene) all the troops overseas were exposed to the foods of the world (including Pizza, French cuisine and Chinese Food) and when they came back many of them had a hunger for those foods rather than boring American food and Kraft dinners, and they parlayed their GI bills into chef training and the rise of gourmet restaraunts and to a lesser extent craft beer. Before craft beer there were "imported" beers including Guinness, that managed to stay in the american market place more than likely sustained by folks who had tasted those things overseas. Not just during the war, but also in the re-building phases in the 50's and 60's on.

Interesting you brought this up, I had a similar discussion with some brew buddies today in terms of Vondka.

I'm not a vodka drinker, but a loft of the craft breweies in Michigan are now distilling and one of my brew buddies, who's a bjcp judge, stopped by and had just picked up a bottle of vodka from one of the new micro distillers, and I tasted some...and although not my scene, it was definitely more complex and flavorful than the swill I remember drinking when I was younger and hating.
 
Oh yeah, agreed with all that, Revvy. Well, except for the smallest of nitpicks concerning food. I would stress that fast food and other mass marketed food stuffs aren't necessarily less flavorful, but like you actually went on to say a bit later, lacking "complex flavor profiles."

Fast food (on my pallet anyway) comes across as over-salted. In fact, that was a big topic at one point: sodium levels of food products. As far as I remember the topic fell away due to continued catcalls of "Socialism," but oops, getting into politics here so let me back off that topic.

Otherwise, yes, totally agreed. I count ourselves lucky that the foodie scene/ craft beer scene even exists, and luckier still that my mother wouldn't allow me to eat fast food as a kid, giving me the chance to develop a taste for better things.
 
People today over-season their food. Used to be stuff was enjoyed for it's OWN flavor. now there's a rub or marinade for anything and everything. I don't mind.

I do like my light lagers cold. There isn't much flavor anyway, and at least there is the sensory delight of a cold drink on a hot day!
 
The core element of advertising for beer in the US for decades has been - drink our beer cold. There is a good reason for this. The colder something is, the less your taste buds will be able to tell it's true flavor.

The beers advertised with cold-ness are the ones that taste like SH*T when they are anything but ice cold.

Drink a craft beer or homebrew at room temp and it will still have a great flavor. Drink a Miller, Coors, Bud, etc... at anything but an ice cold temperature and you will know why they suggest drinking it cold or super cold.
 
Define "Craft Beer". I take it to mean anything not made by a large corporation. Craft Beer brewers would use the same ingredients and very similar methods to brew an American Light Lager if they so chose to make one.

BMC makes a fine example of the style. It's not the brewer that makes it a bad beer, it's just the style is less flavorful than some others. I can think of more light light style beers that I'd rather drink cold than warm. And they are all Craft Beer.
 
I need an instrument that measures the "drinkability" of beers. Come out with a COORS ICE that shows the drinkability meter reading on the side, and I'M IN!!


DUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*drools*
 
I like Coors cold, but I draw the line at being colder than Ice. Ice Cube that is. Did you just snow on me?
 
You must have failed coors bar exam. One bar that says it's cold and the next says it's so cold you can drink it!
 
Obviously you read an article about it, but now I'm wondering if the average Joe buying a case of Coors knows that he can put it in the freezer until it says "super cold" and then take it out.

I just find it supremely "interesting" that someone will buy beer based on a label rather than on it's flavor.

Unfortunately it is true..........the average Joe has no taste. These statements are so true.
 
It's a double edge sword. On one hand I want to encourage craft on the other I like to have it all to myself.
 
Obviously you read an article about it, but now I'm wondering if the average Joe buying a case of Coors knows that he can put it in the freezer until it says "super cold" and then take it out.

I just find it supremely "interesting" that someone will buy beer based on a label rather than on it's flavor.

Unfortunately it is true..........the average Joe has no taste. These statements are so true.

:cross: I was reading your post, and I thought to myself, "That sounds soooo familiar..." It took me a full minute to realize I wrote those first couple lines in an earlier post! :drunk::drunk:
 
People today over-season their food. Used to be stuff was enjoyed for it's OWN flavor. now there's a rub or marinade for anything and everything. I don't mind.

You could say the same thing for beer! Over season=over hopped. And we still don't mind! (well I don't LOVE over hopped beers but they are fun every once in a while!)
 
Transamguy77 said:
Obviously you read an article about it, but now I'm wondering if the average Joe buying a case of Coors knows that he can put it in the freezer until it says "super cold" and then take it out.

I just find it supremely "interesting" that someone will buy beer based on a label rather than on it's flavor.

Unfortunately it is true..........the average Joe has no taste. These statements are so true.

Most people where all average Joes at one point right? Most people started with what was cheap or advertised and then learned that there was more to life than just "lite". Unless you grew up next to a brewery; that would be an exception, of course.
 
I'm holding out for a can that announces when it's ready to drink through a tiny speaker at its base. And only then if it's accompanied by a holographic video of women on trampolines.
 
I just find it supremely "interesting" that someone will buy beer based on a label rather than on it's flavor.

The thing is many of those beers have very little taste difference so there is not really any choice by flavour. Most folks could not tell one from the other.
 
The thing is many of those beers have very little taste difference so there is not really any choice by flavour. Most folks could not tell one from the other.

One of those beer documentaries (I forget which one) did a bunch of blind taste tests with people who claimed they would only drink Bud, or only Coors, etc. So they had them taste Bud, Coors, and Miller, and none of them could correctly identify their favorite brand. :cross:

EDIT: Beer Wars, I think.

The quote you responded to was something I originally said earlier in this thread. Just to clarify, I meant in a general sense, it's interesting to me that so many beer drinkers don't want flavor (or don't care enough about flavor to have it influence their buying habits) and are easily manipulated by advertising and and/or brand loyalty.
 
One of those beer documentaries (I forget which one) did a bunch of blind taste tests with people who claimed they would only drink Bud, or only Coors, etc. So they had them taste Bud, Coors, and Miller, and none of them could correctly identify their favorite brand. :cross:

EDIT: Beer Wars, I think.

The quote you responded to was something I originally said earlier in this thread. Just to clarify, I meant in a general sense, it's interesting to me that so many beer drinkers don't want flavor (or don't care enough about flavor to have it influence their buying habits) and are easily manipulated by advertising and and/or brand loyalty.

yeah, it was Beer Wars.
 
Obviously you read an article about it, but now I'm wondering if the average Joe buying a case of Coors knows that he can put it in the freezer until it says "super cold" and then take it out.

I don't have a see thru freezer so it doesn't help this average joe
 
Despite how silly the current marketing gimmick is, Coors has led the industry in materials science, even creating significant spillover into unrelated fields. The affiliated company CoorsTek does some incredible things both for beverages and the world at large (for profit). Ceramics have been the primary focus, but significant advancements in plastics and metallurgy.

I used to live a few blocks from Coors in Golden. The CoorsTek facility was pretty neat looking. Large stacks of raw materials in a fenced-in-yard so the scientists could tinker with whatever they desired.

Off-shoots from beer production research include toughened zirconia golf putters, mill grinding wheels, body and vehicle armor, medical filtration technology, ceramic knife sharpeners, and the inexpensive mortar and pestle you used in high school science class.

This cold-activated thing could be a gimmick invented by the marketing department, or it could be a re-application of a product developed for the computer, engineering, or medical fields. Who knows?
 
I think Coors is pretty is clever. They've never advertised the best tasting beer, but always the most refreshing and coldest. They know it tastes like nothing, so I guess they're not lying.

Gimmicks will always bring in new customers and those customers will probably never stray from BMC. For us it's stupid for the majority of the public, it's genius.
 
Has anyone seen these new Coors Light commercials? Am I missing something, or are they really claiming you should drink their beer because it's colder than other beers?

Oh look! The label says cold, and then "super cold!" Wow!

Okay, fine. But the beer is being stored in the same damn cooler as the other beer, so what the hell? Did no one on the advertising team ever once say, "Hey, you know...this is pretty stupid. Are we really trying to sell more beer based on perceived temperature? Don't you think someone is going to realize that the beer is all in the same fridge at home, therefore will be the same temperature, and the only difference is a silly little label that happens to say 'super cold'?"

Seriously, did I miss something here? :confused:

With record setting heat in TX this summer, I would not mind actually being brainwashed into thinking the beer I am drinking is the coldest. OK not really, but you get the point.

For someone who lives in hot TX, and has in the past received a bucket of beer that was not (in our opinion, cold enough) nice to have an indicator (thought I would have gotten Miller Lite.) Not that I have been ordering buckets lately, and yes it is marketing, but just saying.

Can someone pour me an Imperial Stout? I am thirsty.
 
onipar said:
:cross: I was reading your post, and I thought to myself, "That sounds soooo familiar..." It took me a full minute to realize I wrote those first couple lines in an earlier post! :drunk::drunk:

Yes I'm sorry, I did it on my phone and for some reason it did not put that it was a quote from you, I was agreeing with you not trying to hijack what you wrote
 
Gimmicks are needed when frat guys argue which is better between flavorless crappy beers. Something has to differentiate them because taste will not.
 
Yes I'm sorry, I did it on my phone and for some reason it did not put that it was a quote from you, I was agreeing with you not trying to hijack what you wrote

Oh, I know. No worries. I just thought it was funny how long it took me to realize why it sounded familiar. :mug:
 
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