Briess Bavarian 6.6 LME Boil Time

[Cygnus_X1]

First post, outstanding forum!

:rockin:

Bought a Liquid Hobby American wheat kit from BetMar.
The instructions for all of their kits seem to be generic and
state "30 minute boil".
This seems awful short to me, seems every recipe for extracts recommend 45 mins to an hour.
They also generically instruct to remove from heat and add LME, DME, and hops all at once and return to boil (there is that 30 minutes).

I plan on going simple and using the kit as is, with the 6.6 lbs LME, Perle hops, and Cooper dry yeast.
Should I mix everything in all at once or not?

I searched the Briess site and here, and didn't find much to work with.

Thanks!

 

[unionrdr]

First post, outstanding forum!

:rockin:

Bought a Liquid Hobby American wheat kit from BetMar.
The instructions for all of their kits seem to be generic and
state "30 minute boil".
This seems awful short to me, seems every recipe for extracts recommend 45 mins to an hour.
They also generically instruct to remove from heat and add LME, DME, and hops all at once and return to boil (there is that 30 minutes).

I plan on going simple and using the kit as is, with the 6.6 lbs LME, Perle hops, and Cooper dry yeast.
Should I mix everything in all at once or not?

I searched the Briess site and here, and didn't find much to work with.

Thanks!

I'd use the DME in the partial boil for hop additions. It needs a bittering addition at 60 minutes. 30 minutes starts to give some bittering,but not much. Flavor additions at,say,20 & 10 minutes left in the boil. Then add the LME at flame out.

 

[RM-MN]

The reason that most kits start with a 60 minute boil is it takes about that long at a boil to isomerize the hop oil for bittering. If your kit contains prehopped LME, it doesn't need that long boil. It may be asking for a 30 minute boil for some hop additions for flavor and later for aroma but if not it only needs the boil to pasteurize.

 

[unionrdr]

Yeah,I did wonder about the LME myself.

 

[Cygnus_X1]

I think I threw too much detail into my question.
The kit contains:
(2) Briess 3.3 lb cans LME (no DME)
Pack of Perle hops
Pack of Cooper dry yeast.

The instructions say to boil 1.5 gals of water, remove from heat, stir in all of the LME and hops, then boil for 30 minutes.

Edit: I did find some info about boiling LME and why it should not be done.
Both cans are unhopped BTW.
Now I'm seeing that the hops should be boiled in, and then LME added afterwards with a 15 minute steep allowed.

What would you do?
It doesn't seem right.

 

[unionrdr]

Since the LME is un-hopped,use part of it in the partial boil like I said for the hop additions. The rest as late extract additions to keep the color lighter & no twang. They must be using the 30 minute hop addition to get low IBU & still have some flavor at the same time. That's the only thing I can think that they're doing. It is offbeat though. Must be going for something like Franziskaner Weissebeir flavore-wise. I don't get much hop flavor from that one. Just a good,natural wheat ale flavor.

 

[Cygnus_X1]

Will do, thanks!

 

[Cygnus_X1]

Notes on week 2:

Liquid Hobby American Wheat
(2) 3.3Lbs Briess Bavarian Wheat LME (Liquid Malt Extract).
Packet of Perle Hops
7G packet DIY Coopers Yeast

Boiled 3 gallons tap water and chilled in advance.
Boiled 2 gallons water in the wort pot.
Stirred in Perle hops and 1 can of LME.
Boiled 15 minutes.
Boiled water in the microwave for the yeast and let it cool.
Stirred in the next can of LME, waited for it to start
boiling again and boiled (and stirred) for another 15 minutes.
Poured the yeast into the starter and stirred it in to sit for 15-25 minutes.
Turned off heat, and placed lid on wort for about 15 minutes as the 3 gallons
of preboiled tap water chilled in ice water (these were in the chilled sink the entire cooking time).
Placed the wort pot in the chilled water, added more ice to the sink.
Cleaned and prepared the fermenting bucket.
Washed out with One Step, and added 2 gallons of the chilled tap water.
Poured wort through a strainer into the bucket.
Placed the bucket in the ice bath and added more ice to the sink.
Topped off with more boiled and chilled tap water to make 5+ gallons.
Stirred vigorously for about 5 minutes.
Checked temp.
Approx 70 degrees.
Took a dip with the graduated tube flask and checked gravity.
1.050 (on target for the recipe).
Pitched hydrated yeast and sealed.
Placed lid, and airlock with tube for blowoff at 1:30 PM.

Boiled more tap water for next week’s batch.
Will place in the refrigerator to chill.

Meanwhile batch#1 is still fermenting.
Next weekend I will be bottling it for the secondary run of at least two weeks.


(Let me know if I screwed up...)

 

[unionrdr]

Sounds pretty good to me. But instead of chilling back & forth between BK & FV,just put the kettle in the sink & top off sink with ice to fill. Then add cold tap water & chill 20 minutes or less for little or no chill haze come fridge time. Less work that way. I keepa couple gallons of the water I'm using well chilled for top off. I can get 70F chilled wort down to 66F or lower with the really cold water additions.

 

[Cygnus_X1]

Happy Birthday!
Popped the cap on the first bottle today.



It's not a disaster.
I had a major incident when I transferred into the bottling bucket.
Kept losing siphon so much that I ended up POURING it in through a metal coffee strainer.
I thought I was done for at that point.

No worries, it is well carbonated and tastes very good.
I did buy an autosiphon to bottle batch #2.
Worked great.

 

[RM-MN]

Happy Birthday!
Popped the cap on the first bottle today.



It's not a disaster.
I had a major incident when I transferred into the bottling bucket.
Kept losing siphon so much that I ended up POURING it in through a metal coffee strainer.
I thought I was done for at that point.

No worries, it is well carbonated and tastes very good.
I did buy an autosiphon to bottle batch #2.
Worked great.

You probably oxidated the beer when you did the straining but it takes some time for the oxidated flavor to show up so drink this batch soon and start your next batch so you have a continuous supply of beer.

 

[Cygnus_X1]

Will do RM.
I need the bottles anyway.

 

[Cygnus_X1]

I should have waited just a few days longer.
The beer tastes fantastic, carbonated just right.
Demonstrates the two things we always hear about...patience, and it's hard to screw up
beer.

Thanks all!