Brewing Big Batches: Implications & Troubleshooting

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When I started the hobby and made some research about recipes, equipment and raw materials, I found that almost everything was in some kind of codified volume : 5 gallons. The recipes I found were for 5 gallons of beer with their respective amount of grains, hop additions and yeast. The equipment was mysteriously listed for 5 gallons, like the carboys, the coolers for the mashing and the fermenters. I thought it was a holy number and always followed the instructions: everything for 5 gallons.
Then the time came where I could start buying new equipment and found a boil kettle that was 9 gallons. I thought it was weird, because everything I had was 5 gallons and those 4 extra gals were for more free space and to avoid boil overs (the addition of hops when the wort is boiling and you don’t have some space in the kettle is a headache). After that, I started tweaking around the recipe, the efficiency of the system and realized that I could tweak another variable: the final volume. I worked the recipe as a mathematical equation: if you have X of 2 row malt, then 1.84x (scaling from 5 to 9 gallons for 8 gals of beer) must do the trick. I made the same with the water, hops and yeast. Hell, I was wrong…
On brew day, everything went wrong: the tun was so full of water and grains that I had to drain some water liquid, there was a stuck mash, and the Original Gravity (OG) of the wort was too low, and the bitterness higher than expected. That was the time I realized that brewing larger batches wasn’t just as straightforward as I thought. When brewing more than 5 gallons, there are some variables, which are correlated, that must be taken in account:
1. Capacity of the equipment (Mash Tun, Boiling Kettle and fermenter).
2. Efficiency that can be achieved with the system.
3. Expected OG.
Understanding these variables will guide the brewer to know how many malt and hops must use be used to achieve X Original Gravity with a Y efficiency. Let’s go deeper into each one of the points:

Capacity of the Equipment for Big Batches


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It’s important to know how much volume the tuns can hold. It’s easy to lose track of the fact that water and grains can impact the total volume of the mashing. If the mash tun capacity is of 7 gals, the brewer can’t expect to be capable of mash 7 gals of water mixed with grains. The grains will occupy space and, if not taken in account, there will be a flood at the moment of the dough in. There are mathematics ways to calculate these volume of water + grains, but, thanks to the technology, we have brewing software , which can help you the brewer out to know how much capacity the brewer tuns must have in order to brew X volume of beer.
The Boiling Kettle capacity is important too. If it fits the exact volume of wort, there will be some spilled liquid by the vigorous boil and a 100% guarantee that there will be a boil over when adding the hops or boiling off the hot break (there is a reaction when adding hop pellets that a lot of foam is created and everything starts to flood. This can be countered by a water sprayer to “destroy” the foam, but it is a headache the that most brewers want to avoid.)
Finally, the fermenter. If the fermenter is the exact volume of the wort coming in, there will be a 100% assurance that there will be a mess when the fermentation starts. Yeast will start to devour the sugar and a Krausen will form (a foam of proteins, hops and yeast). If the brewer is not armed with a blow off tube, the airlock can be clogged by the Krausen resulting in pressure building up. If it’s not handled, the fermenter can just launch the airlock out. Beer and yeast will be in all over the place. Changing the airlock is a headache because it has to be done several times until fermentation is less vigorous and the contamination hazard is very high when doing this. The correct way to counter attack this is to build a blow off tube that let the Krausen flow from the fermenter to a bucket/bottle with some sanitizing solution; or have a fermenter with more capacity (20% is recommended).

Big Batches & Efficiency


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When brewing a high volume of beer, the brewer must take in account that the efficiency that he/she is used to while brewing 5 gals of beer is going to change. This is often related to a more compact mash (less water to grain ratio) that gives less space for the malts to interact with the water and covert the whole starch (enzymatic activity), or even related to the difficulties to mix the mash with all the extra grains (easier to mix 10 pounds of grain than 30 pounds). This variable is not as easy to predict as the other ones, like having some extra space in the mash tun or boiling kettle just in case. The only way to discover the new efficiency is by brewing. This uncertainty is awful at the beginning, but it’s the only way to understand it. Here’s an example:
The brewer is used to have a 70% efficiency when brewing 5 gals, and expect a wort of 1.05 points of gravity. The brewer uses the same malts and just scales the recipe x3 (moving from 5 gals to 15 gals). At the end of the brew of 15 gals, the brewer achieves a wort of 1.045. This means that there is a drop of 7% in efficiency. An adjustment must be done in order to counter this by:
1.- Adding more malt or extract (Dried/Liquid Malt Extract).
2.- Incorporating extra steps in the brew, like a fly sparge or mixing the mash more often. Or…
3.- Choosing a different method of mashing, like changing from BIAB (brewing in a bag) to a false bottom mash tun to be able to do a sparging/lautering.
There’s another option but it is not recommended. This is milling the grains with less space between the rollers, giving a finer grist. This actually elevates the efficiency, but at the cost of a latent danger of a stuck mash because of all the flour created. This can be avoided if you're using the brew in a bag method.
Another thing to consider is the heat retention of your mash and strike water. The larger the volume of your mash, the slower it will lose temperature. This also means that 170F strike water in a 5 gallon mash may be too hot for a 10 gallon mash, resulting in a correction being needed or a high mash temperature.

With Big Batches, and Standard Size Batches, Everything is Connected


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In brewing everything is connected and we can have a “butterfly effect”. A lower gravity from the lower efficiency in the mash, can cause the wort after the boiling to be more bitter (utilization of hops is higher with less sugars dissolved), ending in the worst case in a beer quite different than expected. Even stuff like the gas/electricity that is going to be used to bring the wort to boil and the time extension to chill it has an impact that is important to take in account while scaling.
Knowing the efficiency and implications of the new system can be challenging and time consuming but it will give the brewer the freedom to brew larger batches of beer with certainty in the numbers, which can be translated into certainty of the resulting beer.


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A brew size of around 200 liters therefore seemed about right to start with and could be fitted into a small-purpose built (3.5m x 4.0m) brewhouse in my garden. Getting the structure built was relatively easy using our regular Portuguese builder who is talented at making new features, additions, and extensions in a way that captures our traditional property architecture. For the kit, I wanted to replicate large-scale breweries as much as possible, rather than settle on home brew adapted buckets and pots. This meant going for purpose-built, stainless-steel vessels throughout. BrewBuilder in the UK supplied me with a 200-litre hot liquor tank (HLT), mash tun, and boiler, together with two 100-litre ...
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There seems to be a general idea in the brewing world that you can't sparge with BIAB. James from Basic Brewing turned me on to a simple method. After removing the bag of grain from the mash, dip the whole bag into a vessel of sparge water. Let it soak, stir it, then pull the bag out to drain.
 
Good article and you should NEVER assume anything when going from a small system you know and love to bigger gear for taking the next step. Research, research, research. Buy as big as you can reasonably afford.
You have to think about the biggest beer you will ever want to make and size for it before pulling the purchase trigger. I would also say to those upsizing, look at your process and see if this needs to change when you upsize before you make any purchasing decision on bigger gear.
It might be time to invest in that EHERMS system to max out efficiency on your larger batches or move to a BIAB system if space or multi-vessel cost investment is a concern so its not just about the gear, its also about your current process and if it will be sustainable when moving up...
The key is to make sure you do your homework on your process today, what works/what does not, and how you can get better results while moving up to bigger batches. Otherwise, when you move up, you will end up frustrated that your bigger batches are no where near as good as your smaller ones were and as the poster mentioned your brewdays are much more frustrating as well.
 
The efficiency example piece of this I'm finding trouble with. Assuming I have a system that is sized to do 10 gallon or 5 gallon batch and I scale the recipe accordingly, keeping the same Water to Grain ratio and accounting for any deadspace accordingly I should get approximately the same efficiency. If I need to start mucking around with different ratio's because of tun limitations then yes, efficiency will change - but it would have changed had you changed the ratio and kept it at a 5 gallon batch as well. The driver of differences in the efficiency isn't the batch size, it's in the other variables you're changing to achieve the batch size.
Brewing software is a wonderful thing for all of these adjustments and like you started out saying in the beginning - the only way to know is through experience.
 
Hi there! You are correct, a sparge can be done using a BIAB method and can boost the overall efficiency. I used to be a BIAB brewer and tried everything but I always found in the literature that it was kind of a "different" type of sparging. The most efficient type of sparging is a Fly Sparge, because of the constant flow of water in contact with the grain. The BIAB sparge would be similar to a Batch Sparge but here we have again the variable of a flow of water in contact with the grain, whereas with BIAB one just take out the grains and they just start to drip. That lack of constant flow of water with the grains seems to be the variable that drives a little low the efficiency. But this seems like a very nice experiment because the theory is one thing, but practice is King!
 
Glad you enjoyed the article. I totally agree with you: one should always buy the best equipment for its needs. There is always a cool way to get great beer for everyone, even with a low budget. The best would always be to have a stainless pot with mixing paddles always moving the mash to get the maximum efficiency, with malt crushed by a 3 roller mill and a good fly sparge. But let's be realistic: few people have money for that. You can achieve a fair efficiency and a good beer with a couple of buckets with holes and mimic a Fly Sparge for just a few bucks. There will always be a method or piece of equipment available for the necessity of every brewer, that's the charm of this hobby. Just a good research and practice. Cheers!
 
Hello there! You are correct, there's a chain reaction that creates a link of solutions that can tweak everything. In this case, for example, is the size of the pot. Ceteris Paribus, if someone wants to keep the same equipment but boost the batch size he would have to tweak part of the process like in this case change the water to grain ratio and then top off with water. That is a classic practice of High Gravity Brewing that, in a matter of fact, is very used out there to achieve maximum efficiency of production. The tweaks should be done very well to achieve the same results of the classic ratio used (for example the case you used of 5 and 10 gals) but it can be done with the help of the wonderful software you mentioned. The thing is that everything can be done and there are a lot of possible ways to achieve a result without spending the extra bucks for a larger container. If possible, that would be the best option. But if not, a High Gravity Brewing or even adding DME to achieve OG could do the trick. Cheers!
 
Hello! You are right, a sparge should be possible utilizing a BIAB strategy and can help the general productivity.
 
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