HurricaneFloyd said:1 link to a domestic spying article and now we're into page 4 of an alternative fuel debate. who knew?
HurricaneFloyd said:1 link to a domestic spying article and now we're into page 4 of an alternative fuel debate. who knew?
BrewProject said:page 5...
both are interesting subjects, but i am more concerned about the domestic spying at the moment.
Bu$h has chose to stretch the limits of the laws until challenged. by that time, he gets away with what he wants. the courts tell him to stop, he appeals and continues.
it's gonna catch up with him... :rockin:
Isn't it! I'm actually enjoying reading it! I hope it continues in the cool collected way it started and has continued so far (which is a little strange for us here...)TxBrew said:Page four of a political thread and everyone has still kept their cool.
Good to see!
Cheesefood said:Bush is an idiot who's about to become a lame-duck president. I'd love for him to keep supporting the measure, it'll just make it that much more difficult to get another Republican in the White House.
I love Stephen Colbert's message at the White House Press dinner, when he looked Bush dead in the eye and said...
"Now, I know there are some polls out there saying this man has a 32 percent approval rating. But guys like us, we don't pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in 'reality'. And reality has a well-known liberal bias. ... Sir, pay no attention to the people who say the glass is half empty, because 32% means it's two-thirds empty. There's still some liquid in that glass, is my point. But I wouldn't drink it. The last third is usually backwash."
BrewProject said:he has pretty much done in the GOP...
as Fatabot stated, Bu$h is no Republican/Conservative.
He stands for BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING and BIG INTRUSIVE GOVT (unwarranted wiretaps). These are two things the GOP of the past had absolutely no interest in....
i don't understand where he is coming from, unless it's for his buddies to make money through wars...
btw, why are we in IRAQ? beats me..., it's not to fight terrorism...
where is OBL?
i personally am a conservative when it comes to govt control and spending and a liberal when it comes to morals...
btw, here is a picture of Bu$h's followers.
Cheesefood said:http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/fuel_economy/ethanol-frequently-asked-questions.html
In the near term, the largest potential for oil savings comes from improvements in the fuel economy of new vehicles, and greater fuel efficiency will help lower the costs of an ethanol future. For this reason, government should continue to support research into cellulosic ethanol and other alternative fuels, but not at the expense of concrete steps to implement proven, cost-effective, near-term solutions such as improving fuel economy over the next 10 years.
Fatabbot said:The agricultural lobby is just as powerful as Big Oil's. No surprise, then, that they start pushing an alternative fuel that might, at best, replace 15% of our energy needs instead of mandating efficiency and VIABLE long-term alternatives.
Cheesefood said:As for bailing out the airlines, if you have a Masters in Economics than use it! What are the potential economic impacts of the unemployment caused by reducing the number of airlines? How would the remaining airlines react to the existing demand for off-peak travel times? How would they accomodate the influx of passengers?
What if a plane can only hold 300 people, but 400 need to get from Chicago to LA on the average weekday morning? You have to open up another route or you'll lose business. Explain to me again how less competition is better for consumers? As for the pilots and their pensions, let me ask you this: would you rather lose your job completely, or take a paycut?
Cheesefood said:Bush is an idiot who's about to become a lame-duck president.
Orpheus said:Hmmm.. is that picture above supposed to turn us all on because we could relax, not worry, have a homebrew, pound a sheep from behind, and watch television?
Well I say, good day to you sir, your shameless promotion of bestiality will get you nowhere with us!
Dancing bananas, however, turn most of us on, I'm sure!
Fatabbot said:About to be? He's been a lame duck for years. What a worthless leader. At least we can agree on that one
BrewProject said:yep, i gotta agree he has been a lameduck almost since he called for a mandate after barely winning the election...
Fatabbot said:Yeah, he had tons of "political capital"....
BrewProject said:he lives in his own world, that's for DAMN sure...
gotta run play guitar with friends and drink some beer... been good talking politics with you guys... :rockin:
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