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Old 03-24-2013, 04:13 AM   #1
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Default Coopers kits are ****!!!

Does anyone agree that the coopers home brew kits are rubbish???


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Old 03-24-2013, 04:49 AM   #2
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Well I know that it's usually just best to piece the items together on your own. Homebrew kits are kind of like shirts that just come in one size. For some people, it's going to be awesome. For most people, it won't be effective. So even though I've never bought this kit, it's probably safe for me to agree.


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Old 03-24-2013, 12:28 PM   #3
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My first brew was a Cooper's wheat beer. It came out very true to style but nothing fabulous. I think kits are a good way to show people what is needed to make a beer before they piece their own recipes together.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:44 PM   #4
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I've used a lot of Cooper's IN recipes. If the beer doesn't come out good,take a hard,honest look at the process used to make it. Blame the brewer,not the brew. You have to set up the right conditions for it's sucess or failure. But I will admit that tweaking them makes them better.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:54 PM   #5
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I'm thinking that the one thing I should try that is different in my process is leaving the brew in the primary for longer to clear up the funny flavors.. Also I have a question. What's the best way to add bitterness and hop flavor to these kits hop tea? Dry hopping wont give you flavor or bitterness will it? Was thinking making a tea out of some goldings or fuggles hops...
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:59 PM   #6
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I think they're alright. If I want to make a quick brew to drink then I use them. I don't like the coopers yeast though. I'll buy some safeale 05 for a coopers kit.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:02 PM   #7
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Yep. And their yeast is also rubbish. It has a terrible "woody" flavor and smell to it.

I know people make beer with them, and like them, and that's great. But lots of people make soup with Campbell's Soup and like that as well. And I think it's terrible.

I'm glad that there is something for everyone, but when I made a Cooper's kit as a relatively new brewer, I would have been terribly disappointed and quit brewing if I hadn't made a better kit first and knew it was possible. Since I had made a decent beer out of Brewer's Best kit, I realized it was the crap prehopped canned LME and not homebrewing in general that made a bad beer.
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:48 PM   #8
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Hey, I'm not an Aussie but my surname IS Cooper!! lol

Seriously, I haven't used a Cooper's kit in 12 or more years but not because of the quality. I just found that Northern Brewer and AustinHomeBrew are better...

Well, I guess it was the quality! But they're not horrible... wait...
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:18 PM   #9
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I guess a lot of it depends on what you are used to drinking. Before getting into homebrewing I almost exclusively drank Molson Canadian and Labatt's Blue. Specialty or imported beers were reserved as a very rare treat. The domestic Canadian stuff is expensive to begin with ($2 per bottle - we're taxed to death) and the other stuff is rediculous.

I found that with a Cooper's Canadian Blonde beer kit (including the yeast) and a Munton's Beer Kit Enhancer I could produce a beer I enjoyed at least as much as the Molson and Labatt's beer I was used to. I did however ignore the temperature and fermentation time listed in the instructions. I ferment (primary only) for three weeks at 18degreesC and then leave it in the bottle for at least three weeks before cracking the first one.

Opinions are like arseholes: everyone has one (and sometimes they stink). Here's my opinion. Coopers kits aren't that bad as far as I'm concerned. I've found a couple that I like and I'm currently exploring ways to make better beer using them.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:28 PM   #10
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I made a batch from Coopers Lager and added some extras to it (DME and hops) and I think it came out pretty well, I'll also note that it is on par with Canadian macro brews and I think actually a bit better. Certainly a good base that can be tweaked.

The OP referred to off flavours, if that's the case maybe there is a problem in the brew process.

Bottom line is that Coopers kits are catering to the guy that wants beer fermented and drinkable in a couple of weeks, so have to keep expectations realistic.


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