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Old 02-27-2013, 01:59 AM   #1
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Default Schöfferhofer Hefeweizen Clone or Purchase

So every time I go to Germany I fall in love with this beer all over again. I live and Maine but travel all over the world for work and I can't find this beer anywhere but in Europe. Has anyone seen it in the USA? If yes, where can i buy it?

Failing that, does anyone know enough about it to have a clone recipe around?

I really am not a fan of cloning and won't do it unless I just can't buy it anywhere!

Thank for any help you can give!

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Old 03-05-2013, 01:26 AM   #2
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so nothing huh?


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Old 03-13-2013, 12:06 AM   #3
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:27 AM   #4
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I think what you need to do the next time you go to Frankfurt is kidnap the brewmaster on this one. That's the only way your going to get a clone of this. The U.S. distribution of this looks to be extremely limited. If you could work a deal with the brewery you could be the east coast distributor of this hefe. I don't have any clue how to make this one and no one else does here either. This sounds like a good candidate for Marc Martin, the Beer Replicator at Brew Your Own to attempt. But I'm afraid Marc may have trouble getting information from the German brewery also. I did locate one recipe that you may use as a starting point if you were to attempt a clone. If you're committed to try this (and why not?), I would also suggest a second batch using Wyeast 3333. If it comes close, let us know.

Schofferhoffer Weizen Clone

Type: All Grain
Date: 7/14/2007
Batch Size: 6.60 gal
Brewer: Andrew Clark
Boil Size: 9.83 gal Asst Brewer: Henno
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Andrew's 23 lt Stainless Brewery
60 min boil
Taste Rating (out of 50): 45.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.83 lb Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (1.8 SRM) Grain 59.62 %
4.63 lb Pale Malt, Galaxy (Barrett Burston) (1.5 SRM) Grain 40.38 %
1.59 oz Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.00 %] (60 min) Hops 18.1 IBU
1 Pkgs Weihenstephan Weizen (Wyeast Labs #3068) [Starter 1000 ml] Yeast-Wheat


Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.048 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.52 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.60 %
Bitterness: 18.1 IBU Calories: 208 cal/pint
Est Color: 3.1 SRM

Mash Profile

Mash Name: Double Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 11.46 lb
Sparge Water: 5.97 gal Grain Temperature: 50.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 185.0 F TunTemperature: 50.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Double Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
30 min Protein Rest Add 10.33 qt of water at 140.3 F 122.0 F
30 min Saccrification Add 11.65 qt of water at 190.9 F 154.0 F


Mash Notes: Double step infusion - for medium body beers requiring a protein rest. Used primarily in beers high in unmodified grains or adjuncts.

Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Kegged (Forced CO2) Volumes of CO2: 2.7
Pressure/Weight: 16.0 PSI Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 42.8 F Age for: 7.0 days
Storage Temperature: 39.2 F
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Thank you so much! that's a great start!
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The only other point I'd have is ferment this puppy at 62 degrees F. That will actually suit this beer the best. The pale malt could be a pilsen malt also. Try different minor recipe variations until you nail it.
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Did a ferment at 65 or so, did a 1 gal batch. Currently in a secondary till next week then bottle and wait for the magic! Thanks so much buzzer!
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No problem. Let us know how this shakes out. What yeast did you end up using? I'll throw you a curve ball, if you want to experiment to find the right taste, consider Wyeast 1007 German Ale yeast as another alternative. I don't think you can go wrong with a weizen for the hot summer. Don't be shy about making this a 5 gallon batch. July is coming!
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Ended up using WLP 380. if this is good it will get scaled to 10 but i really want to match that brew!
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:18 AM   #10
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So Buzzer that just got bottled and it's a great beer. Needs something for head retention and I think i'll try the yeast you recommended as this one generated to much banana flavor.....


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