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Old 03-23-2011, 11:00 PM   #1
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I am trying to convert a recipe that is written in percentages, which I know how to do in BeerSmith, but I am having trouble with sugars in the boil. BeerSmith doesn't compensate for that. I want to keep the OG at 1.073 (with converted lbs of grain) but need to add 3 lbs of turbinado and 1 lb of corn sugar without raising the OG in BeerSmith. Basically what I need to find out is how much would the 1.073 with the sugars in it be if I didn't put the sugars in so I can set that as the target OG for converting the grains into pounds. Its for a 10 gal brew. I'm sorry if this is confusing, but I'm confused as well

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Old 03-24-2011, 12:53 AM   #2
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What's your recipe?

I'm confused. Why doesn't your recipe have the amounts of sugar to use? Why do you need to add sugar?

What I would do is go ahead and add in all your sugars. Then add in the specialty grains in the batch (i.e. non basemalts). Then, use the base malt to bring it up to your required OG.

 
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:55 AM   #3
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I am trying to convert a recipe that is written in percentages, which I know how to do in BeerSmith, but I am having trouble with sugars in the boil. BeerSmith doesn't compensate for that. I want to keep the OG at 1.073 (with converted lbs of grain) but need to add 3 lbs of turbinado and 1 lb of corn sugar without raising the OG in BeerSmith. Basically what I need to find out is how much would the 1.073 with the sugars in it be if I didn't put the sugars in so I can set that as the target OG for converting the grains into pounds. Its for a 10 gal brew. I'm sorry if this is confusing, but I'm confused as well

Any help would be majorly appreciated.
I have no idea what you mean! You're trying to add sugar to the recipe without changing the OG? But you can't. Because sugars change the OG.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:12 AM   #4
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I know it will effect OG, but I want to know what the OG should be BEFORE adding the sugars to maintain a 1.073 final OG. This way I can get the correct proportions in pounds from the grain percentage..

 
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:19 AM   #5
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I can get the correct proportions without the sugar. Say I need 47% of 2 row which and it gives me the correct lbs of grain. Then I put in the turbinado and it cuts down the 47% down to 42% or so. I want to maintain the 47% and the 1.073 OG after the sugars are added.

 
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I can get the correct proportions without the sugar. Say I need 47% of 2 row which and it gives me the correct lbs of grain. Then I put in the turbinado and it cuts down the 47% down to 42% or so. I want to maintain the 47% and the 1.073 OG after the sugars are added.
Well, the put the sugars in too with the % correct.

If you have 10% sugar, 85% two-row, and 5% crystal, then it would be correct.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:31 AM   #7
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Post the recipe and your desired brew length. We'll help.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:32 AM   #8
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Why not just cut out the extra sugars and just use more base malt? Unless the recipe specifically NEEDS the sugars for flavor and to dry it out some... But you should be able to get similar results mashing lower... I've shifted away from adding processed sugars into my brew (all the way up to bottling) since going all grain. I'd rather use all grains for the brew than hit it with some other sugars to boost the OG... When I started, I was using honey in batches... Of course, those were extract brews, and I didn't know any better. Now, though, I'm just using the right amount of grain to hit my OG targets... If I miss the target, no biggie... Well, depending on how far I miss it by. As long as it looks like it will still be a solid brew (which most do) then I leave it alone...
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:34 AM   #9
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I would also add if the recipe DOESN'T have sugar in it already, adding 4 pounds of sugar to a 5 gallon recipe is pretty excessive.

 
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Looks like he's making a 10 gallon batch... Or the recipe was for 10 gallons... Not very clear in the opening confused post...
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