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Old 02-15-2010, 12:11 AM   #1
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hello, have you ever seen a New Holland The Poet clone?
I am a big fan and if you could point me in the right direction I would
appreciate it.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:27 PM   #2
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I haven't seen it but I know someone has it! I'll keep an eye out for ya since I'm local.
I'm looking to get one for Night Tripper - Imperial Stout If you happen to run into someone that has a clone like it, please feel free to PM or email me. Good to see another good beer looking to be cloned. The Poet was and is right up there with some of my favorite locals.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:55 PM   #3
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I can't help either of you on Poet or Night Tripper, but I can help with Dragon's Milk if anyone was looking for that:

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.41 gal
Estimated OG: 1.086 SG
Estimated Color: 27.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 33.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
12 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 75.59 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.45 %
10.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 3.94 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
4.0 oz Wheat - White Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM) Grain 1.57 %
0.80 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 31.2 IBU
0.25 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
1.00 oz Oak Chips (Secondary 7.0 days) Misc
4.00 oz Bourbon (Secondary 1.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: *Single Infusion Batch Sparge (Full Body)
Total Grain Weight: 15.88 lb
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*Single Infusion Batch Sparge (Full Body)
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 19.84 qt of water at 171.1 F 158.0 F
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:48 PM   #4
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I'm in Love! Thanks Hopvine!
Please keep us posted if you see or here of a location of a clone. Good to see a local on here as well!
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:25 AM   #5
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hello, have you ever seen a New Holland The Poet clone?
I am a big fan and if you could point me in the right direction I would
appreciate it.
Thank you
No clone here but that is an outstanding beer. Had it on tap a few months ago and it blew me away.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:35 PM   #6
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I'm in Love! Thanks Hopvine!
Please keep us posted if you see or here of a location of a clone. Good to see a local on here as well!
~K
Our local brewing club meets at New Holland's brewing facility once a month (http://brewersonthelake.blogspot.com/). Jacob, their brewer, usually hangs out with us for a while and takes people back to the fermentation room to get yeast off of their conicals. I could probe for some Poet/Night Tripper clone tips, OR better yet you could join us at the next meeting and ask him yourself!
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:45 AM   #7
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Anyone clone this great beer yet?
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:59 PM   #8
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I can't help either of you on Poet or Night Tripper, but I can help with Dragon's Milk if anyone was looking for that:

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.41 gal
Estimated OG: 1.086 SG
Estimated Color: 27.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 33.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
12 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 75.59 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.45 %
10.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 3.94 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
4.0 oz Wheat - White Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM) Grain 1.57 %
0.80 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 31.2 IBU
0.25 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
1.00 oz Oak Chips (Secondary 7.0 days) Misc
4.00 oz Bourbon (Secondary 1.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: *Single Infusion Batch Sparge (Full Body)
Total Grain Weight: 15.88 lb
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*Single Infusion Batch Sparge (Full Body)
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 19.84 qt of water at 171.1 F 158.0 F
How close did this recipe come to the real thing? I love Dragon's Milk and want to brew a clone of it. I also love Night Tripper.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hopvine View Post
I can't help either of you on Poet or Night Tripper, but I can help with Dragon's Milk if anyone was looking for that:

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.41 gal
Estimated OG: 1.086 SG
Estimated Color: 27.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 33.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
12 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 75.59 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.45 %
10.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 3.94 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 3.15 %
4.0 oz Wheat - White Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM) Grain 1.57 %
0.80 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 31.2 IBU
0.25 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
1.00 oz Oak Chips (Secondary 7.0 days) Misc
4.00 oz Bourbon (Secondary 1.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: *Single Infusion Batch Sparge (Full Body)
Total Grain Weight: 15.88 lb
----------------------------
*Single Infusion Batch Sparge (Full Body)
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 19.84 qt of water at 171.1 F 158.0 F
how does this compare to the real thing?
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So I just sampled my second batch of this and made some tweaks from my first stab at it. At this point, it is identical to Dragon's Milk. I tasted it tonight because I just threw in some vanilla beans as I want to make a vanilla varient of Dragon's Milk, so I wanted to have a baseline. Of course, my sample was not carbed, but side by side, the only difference I could detect was the real dragon's milk had carbonation. Even the silky mouth feel was spot on. I will post my recipe below, but more importantly, will brew this many more times.

Grain crush .037"
Mash 158* (1 hour)
Sparge 180* (2.5 hours)
90 min boil
Post boil volume 6.25 gallons
91.5% brewhouse efficiency
O.G 1.113
37 IBU's

14lbs Pale Malt
2.5lbs Munich male
1lb Caramel 80
1lb Caramel 120
1lb Flaked barley
1lb Chocolate Malt
6oz Debittered black malt
1oz glacier (60min)
1lb lactose (15min)
1oz nugget (15 min)
5 liter starter of 1056 pitched at 65* post boil
oxygenate and a packet of US05 at 24 hours.
Primary for 4 weeks

2 medium toast american oak spirals that have been soaking in NH beer barrel bourbon since June. Went into secondary and sat for 5 weeks. No bourbon was added with spirals, just whatever soaked into them.


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