Price of GRAIN - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Price of GRAIN

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-05-2009, 08:24 AM   #1
Sum1Stu
Recipes 
 
Apr 2009
Toronto
Posts: 173


I live in GTA, and the price of grain makes me not even want to start PM or AG. I get coopers cans for 15$ each, and at 3-4$ per pound of grain an avg recipe calls for 10lbs each 5 gals, were talkin a price increase of 2x!

I really wanto make beer the proper way, and get off malt extracts, but I do need to invest in equipment, and im not even sure if its possible to boil a pot that big in an apartment safely.

Let me know what you guys think about it. Its not the price in the end, its the quality of the beer, and to be honest coopers kits has me soo satisfied that I really doubt I could make something better by mashing myself.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 08:42 AM   #2
Orfy
For the love of beer!
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Orfy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Sep 2005
Cheshire, England
Posts: 11,732
Liked 94 Times on 62 Posts


Why not try a counter top partial mash and see what you get from that.
There are a few really good tutorials on this site.

I think you'll me inspired.

You may find that you are happy with the quality of beer you get from that and not feel the need to go All grain.

The level of commitment on space, time and money may not be for all brewers.

That being said an AG set up can easily be done for <$150 if you make some bits your self and scrounge around.
An AG brew can be done <4hrs (A new brewer should allow the full day with no distractions)

As for the price of the grain:
1kg of malt extract (1.5kg can) 5.30
1kg of grain (bulk 25kg) will cost me 1.40
1kg of grain (3kg bag) costs 1.70

Given I like making the beer as much as drinking it (almost) and that I like making the gear then it's a no brainer for me.

If you are the type of person that likes to cook and create your own food then I'd say go for it.
__________________
GET THE GOBLIN
Have a beer on me.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 08:45 AM   #3

Hi Sum. Here, I buy organic grain in bulk for 90 - 95 cents per pound. One of the big advantages of going to all grain is that is significantly cheaper than extract brewing.

As for boiling, that's a real issue. If you can't boil 6-7 gallons, it's difficult to do all grain. One possible work around is to split your batch between two smaller pots.

As for what you like - I always think that I brew for myself, so if you like the Coopers kits, go for it.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 11:49 AM   #4
MarkSheffield
 
MarkSheffield's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2009
Posts: 108
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Yeah, it's not about the money. I can make a really good extract beer for about the same as my simplest AG brew, but I would far rather spend the time/money/effort -there's much more zen involved in an AG brewday.

Years back, I did AG brewing in a small apartment on a stovetop. Nothing to it, just try to get good conversion and don't worry about perfection, just do it.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 03:23 PM   #5
Orangevango
 
Orangevango's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Mar 2008
Posts: 596
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts


You are getting ripped off on grain, buy online.
__________________
Visit my Hop Farm on Facebook

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 04:25 PM   #6
Beezer94
 
Beezer94's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2009
Harmony, PA
Posts: 644
Liked 29 Times on 26 Posts


there seems to be a couple malting companies based in Toronto, so if you pay $3-4 a lb of grain then yes someone is stealing from you.

Are you sure its not $3-4 a Kg? That would be 2.2lbs for $3, so $1.36 a pound.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 01:40 AM   #7
big supper
Recipes 
 
Jul 2007
Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 425
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


Yeah....in Montreal we pay much less than that. $1/pound for Canada 2-row. Maybe 1.50-2.00 for a British Pale type malt.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 01:45 AM   #8
The Pol
Recipes 
 
Feb 2007
Posts: 11,454
Liked 96 Times on 81 Posts


I just bought Candian 2-Row for under $.50/pound and Pilsner, Munich, Vienna, Wheat, Maris Otter for under $.70 per pound.

WHO THE HECK is selling grain for 3-4 bucks a pound?! That is CRIMINAL!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 03:09 AM   #9
LordHedgie
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Washington
Posts: 151

+1 on double-checking the price, those prices are unreasonable.

More importantly, "quality" isn't a valid reason to switch to AG. For most styles of beer, it's almost impossible to tell if a beer was made with extract or grain. As far as I can tell, there are three reasons to go all grain:

(1) There are some beer styles that just can't be done extract,
(2) It's cheaper,
(3) Converting grain to beer is magical.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 03:15 AM   #10
The Pol
Recipes 
 
Feb 2007
Posts: 11,454
Liked 96 Times on 81 Posts


Also, just because it is "grain" doesnt mean it is a high quality grain. Is it Briess? Or is it Best Malz? Weyerman?

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bulk Grain Price Brutus Brewer All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 123 12-10-2011 08:06 PM
price? mot Equipment/Sanitation 10 03-05-2008 03:24 PM
Grain price up 50% Orfy Recipes/Ingredients 8 12-09-2007 04:22 PM
Price for a 24 of BMC? mrfocus Drunken Ramblings and Mindless Mumbling 15 12-09-2007 12:28 PM
Last grain price post..... Joe Dragon Recipes/Ingredients 0 12-05-2007 06:32 PM


Forum Jump