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Old 08-26-2009, 04:40 PM   #1
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I've bottled 2 batches with my Red Baron wing capper. The first two batches I didn't really try to get the "dimple" on the caps. But somehow it got into my head that the dimple is an indicator of a good seal, so on the 3rd batch, I used force to get the dimple, and I got it... But I was afraid I was going to crush the bottles (thats how much force I used).

So, I thought maybe my Red Baron was defective and I bought a bench capper. When I was practicing with the new bench capper last night, I realized that it too didn't dimple unless I use significant force. In fact, more force than my wife could probably exert 50+ times (and she is the capper in the assembly line).

Question is: can you put my mind at ease and let me know if the dimple is necessary for a good seal? When I don't get the dimple it seems the bottle caps are sealing well, but I've just got to know if I NEED the dimple.

 
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:46 PM   #2
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boil your caps to sanitize and before they get to cold, it will be hot, cap your beers and you will have a good seal.

 
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #3
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I rarely get a dimple. When I do I adjust the capper bell so it stops doing it, although I know some are not adjustable. You do not need to apply your body weight to the capper or anything.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #4
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Very few of mine have the dimple, from my experience it isnt needed.

 
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:49 PM   #5
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I have seen it go both ways and have had some issues with capping that I resolved. I noticed that with the bench capper the more force I used the less likely it would cap correctly. Now I just adjust the capper to the bottle size and I have had less issues. Some of my caps dimple and some don't. I also check every bottle after I finish capping. It takes an extra 5 min or so but it is worth it to me.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:50 PM   #6
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Quote:
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boil your caps to sanitize and before they get to cold, it will be hot, cap your beers and you will have a good seal.
I though that was just for the old school bottle caps. I have not boiled bottle caps in years. I just soak them in Star San for 30 seconds or so.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:52 PM   #7
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I have wondered the same thing, so I bottled half a batch with dimple and half without, using a Wing Capper such as yours.

Both kept seals and achieved sufficient carbonation. I could not draw any significant differences between the two.

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Old 08-26-2009, 04:53 PM   #8
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Sometimes I get the dimple, sometimes I don't. It just seems random. I haven't had any issues with the bottles either way.

When you use a wing capper, you don't want to apply any downward force on the bottle. The capper will apply the force on the cap for you. You want to lever the handles down as if you were bending something in the air rather than pushing the handles downward. When I cap, the bottle actually comes up off the floor slightly as I finish capping it.

I don't heat sanitize my caps. I just lay out a half dozen or so from the bag at a time and spray them down with Starsan.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:53 PM   #9
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If you boil caps it can take the oxtgen barrier off. just drop in sanitizer
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:54 PM   #10
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The capper shouldn't dimple the cap.

Edit: Wow, you guys answered really fast.
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