Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Equipment/Sanitation > Bottle Cappers: Dimple Good, NO Dimple Bad??
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-26-2009, 04:40 PM   #1
Jknapp
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Seattle
Posts: 221
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default Bottle Cappers: Dimple Good, NO Dimple Bad??

I've bottled 2 batches with my Red Baron wing capper. The first two batches I didn't really try to get the "dimple" on the caps. But somehow it got into my head that the dimple is an indicator of a good seal, so on the 3rd batch, I used force to get the dimple, and I got it... But I was afraid I was going to crush the bottles (thats how much force I used).

So, I thought maybe my Red Baron was defective and I bought a bench capper. When I was practicing with the new bench capper last night, I realized that it too didn't dimple unless I use significant force. In fact, more force than my wife could probably exert 50+ times (and she is the capper in the assembly line).

Question is: can you put my mind at ease and let me know if the dimple is necessary for a good seal? When I don't get the dimple it seems the bottle caps are sealing well, but I've just got to know if I NEED the dimple.


Jknapp is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:46 PM   #2
whalenutz
Senior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
whalenutz's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 258
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

boil your caps to sanitize and before they get to cold, it will be hot, cap your beers and you will have a good seal.


whalenutz is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #3
Whiskey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Granville, Ohio
Posts: 735
Liked 13 Times on 10 Posts

Default

I rarely get a dimple. When I do I adjust the capper bell so it stops doing it, although I know some are not adjustable. You do not need to apply your body weight to the capper or anything.
__________________
Insert catchy signature here....

Whiskey is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #4
lowlife
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 692
Liked 11 Times on 8 Posts
Likes Given: 33

Default

Very few of mine have the dimple, from my experience it isnt needed.
lowlife is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:49 PM   #5
zman
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
zman's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Denver.
Posts: 2,615
Liked 16 Times on 16 Posts
Likes Given: 17

Default

I have seen it go both ways and have had some issues with capping that I resolved. I noticed that with the bench capper the more force I used the less likely it would cap correctly. Now I just adjust the capper to the bottle size and I have had less issues. Some of my caps dimple and some don't. I also check every bottle after I finish capping. It takes an extra 5 min or so but it is worth it to me.
__________________
www.kroc.org
zman is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:50 PM   #6
zman
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
zman's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Denver.
Posts: 2,615
Liked 16 Times on 16 Posts
Likes Given: 17

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whalenutz View Post
boil your caps to sanitize and before they get to cold, it will be hot, cap your beers and you will have a good seal.
I though that was just for the old school bottle caps. I have not boiled bottle caps in years. I just soak them in Star San for 30 seconds or so.
__________________
www.kroc.org
zman is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:52 PM   #7
PseudoChef
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
PseudoChef's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: West Chicago 'Burbs, IL
Posts: 3,424
Liked 108 Times on 79 Posts
Likes Given: 39

Default

I have wondered the same thing, so I bottled half a batch with dimple and half without, using a Wing Capper such as yours.

Both kept seals and achieved sufficient carbonation. I could not draw any significant differences between the two.
PseudoChef is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:53 PM   #8
ChshreCat
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ChshreCat's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Camano Island, Washington
Posts: 11,576
Liked 532 Times on 426 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

Sometimes I get the dimple, sometimes I don't. It just seems random. I haven't had any issues with the bottles either way.

When you use a wing capper, you don't want to apply any downward force on the bottle. The capper will apply the force on the cap for you. You want to lever the handles down as if you were bending something in the air rather than pushing the handles downward. When I cap, the bottle actually comes up off the floor slightly as I finish capping it.

I don't heat sanitize my caps. I just lay out a half dozen or so from the bag at a time and spray them down with Starsan.
__________________
"Science + beer = good!"
-Adam Savage
ChshreCat is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:53 PM   #9
IrregularPulse
Hobby Collector
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
IrregularPulse's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 46,677
Liked 3028 Times on 2934 Posts
Likes Given: 149

Default

If you boil caps it can take the oxtgen barrier off. just drop in sanitizer
__________________
Tap Room Hobo

I should have stuck to four fingers in Vegas. :o - marubozo's mom
IrregularPulse is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:54 PM   #10
carbon111
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 562
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

The capper shouldn't dimple the cap.

Edit: Wow, you guys answered really fast.


__________________
Best Regards, James
--
My beer blog: http://brewdujour.blogspot.com
My website: http://www.carbon111.com


Fermenting: Carbon's Grizzly Bear, Young's Special London Ale (clone)

Bottled/Conditioning:Siberian Raven Winter Ale, Cherry Tree Porter, Victoria's Dirty Secret

Drinking: Montgomery Scottish Ale, Thames American Bitter, Crow's Beak Old Ale, Bastet Brown, Carbon's Cascade Ale, Red Silo Honey IPA

Reason: Everyone answered before me
carbon111 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Where can I buy dimple pint glasses? belmontbrew General Beer Discussion 6 11-06-2009 03:53 PM
Bottle Cappers OregonBrewer Equipment/Sanitation 17 08-06-2009 02:49 PM
Question about the bench cappers Corkster Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 10 04-30-2009 01:09 PM
Super Agata Capper Bells: inner dia. for the 26mm & 29mm cappers different sizes... iamjonsharp Equipment/Sanitation 2 12-10-2008 04:22 PM
Ebay Bottle Cappers tron Bottling/Kegging 6 02-01-2007 04:28 AM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS