That is fairly quick, warm at home? Short grain rice?
We set the air on about 75 when we left. The rice is "Thai Jasmine sweet rice."
Should I taste to see if it's vinegary?
That is fairly quick, warm at home? Short grain rice?
It won't be, not enough time. Though tasting is always a good idea.We set the air on about 75 when we left. The rice is "Thai Jasmine sweet rice."
Should I taste to see if it's vinegary?
...tasting is always a good idea... And, how big are your balls?
That's what she... Oh nevermind.Size matters?
That's what she... Oh nevermind.
If you don't know the actual proportion to rice yeast ball mass to dry rice mass you don't actually have any useful information. Just stating the number of rice yeast balls to dry rice doesn't mean much. Different brands use different sized rice yeast balls.
The RYR sure bring a nice color, the mold on top is kinda gross.
Ok so here's what I got after 3 days. Seems like a lot of liquid in a short amount of time compared to other posts in this thread. If this fairly normal? I made it Tuesday night, went camping for a couple nights and came home to this. There was a faint smell in my kitchen that I rather liked.
Look OK? Thanks.
I processed yesterday. Its delicious! Im really pleased.
The wife was suspicious because of the rice glop, but when I finally convinced her to try it she was shocked how much like our favorite sake it tasted.
thanks sonofgrok.
Seems like a lot of fluid early.
But do you think doing so would make it less likely for me to have "rice champagne" (which doesnt sound all that nice to be honest) and give me a more even product?
Ok so here's what I got after 3 days. Seems like a lot of liquid in a short amount of time compared to other posts in this thread. If this fairly normal? I made it Tuesday night, went camping for a couple nights and came home to this. There was a faint smell in my kitchen that I rather liked.
Look OK? Thanks.
I'll get back to this when I can get to my scale. We just moved and the box it's in is in the bedroom where SWMBO is sleeping and has to be up at 6 for work. They are one inch diameter I know that. 2 cups dry rice and probably 1.75 balls. There are two balls in a package and i used almost all of one package.
I'll weigh my balls tomorrow and report back.
Ok, that's kinda what I was thinking. I think the package you are describing has 10 balls in it and is 4 oz. So you added about .7 oz of rice yeast balls. I usually add about .33 oz to 1 1/2 cups dry rice. That's measuring cups, not the "cup" measurement that's used by the rice cooker. So your pitch rate was close to twice what I've been using. I've been seeing that level of conversion at around day 14.Well, it's got the spores on top and I poured a little from under the glob last night and it tastes good. It smells like rice and tastes very good. I thought it would have a hot alcohol taste but it doesn't. pretty fun.
wyoast said:I started 4 cups of Sushi Rice and 2 yeast balls yesterday, was a little concerned because the rice was pretty sticky but oh well. Tonight though, in spots where I can see the yeast concentrated pretty good, I am seeing a lot of little black specks in those concentrated areas... Is that normal? or has something gone wrong here? I would post pics but Im afraid the black specs wouldn't come through in the pictures. Any thoughts?
I just tasted it. Holy yeast balls Batman is that good. Sweet tart and fruity all at once. I'll be getting a bigger jar tomorrow.
Ok, that's kinda what I was thinking. I think the package you are describing has 10 balls in it and is 4 oz. So you added about .7 oz of rice yeast balls. I usually add about .33 oz to 1 1/2 cups dry rice. That's measuring cups, not the "cup" measurement that's used by the rice cooker. So your pitch rate was close to twice what I've been using. I've been seeing that level of conversion at around day 14.
I'm not surprised that you aren't tasting much alcohol. I doubt to much of the sugar has fermented at this point.
Glad you like it so far, and as always, have nice day.
Ok, that's kinda what I was thinking. I think the package you are describing has 10 balls in it and is 4 oz. So you added about .7 oz of rice yeast balls. I usually add about .33 oz to 1 1/2 cups dry rice. That's measuring cups, not the "cup" measurement that's used by the rice cooker. So your pitch rate was close to twice what I've been using. I've been seeing that level of conversion at around day 14.
Interesting, let us know how things come out please.I'm guessing it mostly has to do with the rice. I've been using about half the yeast you are, one 10g ball (.35 oz) for every 4 rice cooker cups of dry rice (3 US cups), and I'm seeing similar conversion to elkshadow's pics in 4-5 days. I'm using sweet rice though, same as elkshadow. Or it could be the different yeast balls. I just started a couple small batches with 3 types of yeast balls, so I guess we'll see in a few days if it's the yeast or the rice.
I'm guessing it mostly has to do with the rice. I've been using about half the yeast you are, one 10g ball (.35 oz) for every 4 rice cooker cups of dry rice (3 US cups), and I'm seeing similar conversion to elkshadow's pics in 4-5 days. I'm using sweet rice though, same as elkshadow. Or it could be the different yeast balls. I just started a couple small batches with 3 types of yeast balls, so I guess we'll see in a few days if it's the yeast or the rice.
Huh, I must not have seen it. The batch I made with just RYR did not yield well. It yielded just about 1/2 what the RYR+rice yeast ball batches usually do. RYR is nice stuff, but it needs some help from the rice yeast balls in order to get a good conversion rate. It tasted good though.about a week ago I posted a question about using just RYR and never got a response so.... In light of not getting a response I am going to fire up a batch and try it... Hope all goes well.
Otherwise I'm stuck with 5# Sushi rice that I'll have to find something else to do with it.
It should be thicker then water, but no where near gravy. How long did you let the rice cool before adding the yeast balls and the RYR?So I'm harvesting my rice wine that I started approximately three weeks ago (give or take a day.) It's VERY thick... almost the consistency of heavy whipping cream. Is this normal? I used 5# of Thai Jasmine rice with about 4 (I think) yeast balls and about a cup of RYR all mixed up. I cooked the rice in a rice cooker with approximately 1.25:1 water:rice mix. It smells VERY sweet as well. So far, I've harvested about a quart (rough guess) of wine. I have the lees straining, dripping into a large mixing bowl.
It should be thicker then water, but no where near gravy. How long did you let the rice cool before adding the yeast balls and the RYR?
Sounds like your rice may have been to hot. I had a batch I didn't let cool that was a complete failure. The rice didn't really saccharify, so I couldn't get anything drinkable out of it.Not sure... I think it was warm to the touch, but nowhere near "hot" as best I can recall.
Sounds like your rice may have been to hot. I had a batch I didn't let cool that was a complete failure. The rice didn't really saccharify, so I couldn't get anything drinkable out of it.
Here's a picture of the glop that came out of that batch.
Hmm.... OK. Well, shoot... I may dump that stuff and start over on a small scale... maybe one bag of the vietnamese yeast (about 10 or so mini-balls / pack) and maybe 1/4 cup RYR for a small (2#) package of Jasmine rice. That sound about the right?
I'm not sure how large those rice yeast balls are. 2# of rice should be about 5 cups of dry rice. I've been using 1, 1/3 of an ounce, yeast ball per 1 1/2 cups of dry rice. So I would probably use 4 for the 2lb batch. I error on the high side for pitching. For the RYR I've been using 1/8th the volume of the dry rice. Or, 1 tbs per 1/2 cup of dry rice. Or for sanities sake, a scant 3/4 cup in this case.Hmm.... OK. Well, shoot... I may dump that stuff and start over on a small scale... maybe one bag of the vietnamese yeast (about 10 or so mini-balls / pack) and maybe 1/4 cup RYR for a small (2#) package of Jasmine rice. That sound about the right?
I'm not sure how large those rice yeast balls are. 2# of rice should be about 5 cups of dry rice. I've been using 1 1/3 of an ounce yeast ball per 1 1/2 cups of dry rice. So I would probably use 4 for the 2lb batch. I error on the high side for pitching. For the RYR I've been using 1/8th the volume of the dry rice. Or, 1 tbs per 1/2 cup of dry rice. Or for sanities sake, a scant 3/4 cup in this case.
I've also taken to cooking my rice the day before I need it, and leaving it to cool in a food grade bucket overnight. That way I know it's cool enough to pitch.
I may have just way underpitched this bigger batch. I use about 17 grams for 4 cups.
If you're balls are 10 G also, you'd be pitching ~37 grams per 1.5 cups? Am I reading it wrong or are your balls smaller than mine?
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