PinkyOFloyd
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Add a box of crushed ex-lax to the secondary and overpitch the yeast. Give each of the 2 worst a case.
GEEEZ! That's about as bad as prepping for a colonoscopy....
Add a box of crushed ex-lax to the secondary and overpitch the yeast. Give each of the 2 worst a case.
you're not selling commercial and technically you can't charge without a license.
But if it's to the point of them drinking your beer to the point you can't afford to brew for yourself, Put out a mandatory "tip" jar. Or if it's primarily 2-4 friends, then you all 4 can alternate who pays for batches.
I may be alone here, but if you're gonna share it with them, asking them to pay for it is a bit... tacky. If a buddy of mine pointed to a "tip" jar every time I came over and had a beer, I may actually put in, but I would probably think less of the guy.
I love to share my beer with everybody I meet. If I go through a case in a day with my friends, that's on me. If you don't want them to drink it, don't offer it to them, don't tell them about a new recipe you're psyched about, and don't tell them the progress on your batches.
You don't have to share your homebrew. And if your friends really only come over to drink your brew, then that is a problem. But if you like to make it and you like to share what you've made with others, I think that cost is on you. UNTIL they start making requests. Then you are totally within rights to ask them to poney up. Just my two cents.
GEEEZ! That's about as bad as prepping for a colonoscopy....
I have to agree that the tip jar is a bit... unorthodox. I make homebrew to enjoy and share with my friends. There is an unspoken agreement in our tribe that if you're a beer drinker and you're coming over, and unless otherwise stated that beer will be provided for all, you bring a six/twelve/case to contribute (depending on the size of the crowd). All beer is community property unless specified otherwise -- this way we get to try some new and old favorites of the other drinkers. Again, I may be hanging out with a more considerate crowd than most.
When I started brewing, my original intention was to have a batch or two on hand (paid for out of my own pocket) that I would have as home stock, then split further batches 2 or 3 ways with my more committed friends, dividing the cost of materials evenly and having them contribute labor to help brew/bottle/etc. It has actually evolved into this: I have pretty much paid for and made everything so far. My friends contribute tremendously to my bottle stock -- they are rabid collectors of pop-top beer bottles now, and will tailor their own drinking selections to match my bottle-style needs. They have also contributed a little bit of labor on bottling day (got one buddy who finds it a downright enjoyable zen-like activity). They have enjoyed my beer at the various get-togethers and haven't abused my hospitality.
They are getting the itch to make some for themselves, now. They will buy the ingredients and save up bottles for themselves. Since I own the gear, and have the know-how, they will come to my place and brew under my tutelage, doing the lion's share of the work. Every stage of the process will involve their hands. At the end of it all, they will take home 2+ cases of their own beer, paid for by them, using their own bottles. The agreement is that I don't store anything that they themselves own... the bottles (empty or full), for example.
If this goes well, I can see this eventually leading to them buying a primary and a secondary fermenter of their own so as to not disrupt my capacity to brew, and borrowing what they need to do the rest. If that goes well, I see them buying the rest of the gear, bit by bit, to do it all themselves. This is the best evolution I can envision toward bringing others who aren't as zealous as I am into the homebrewing fold. It builds a greater appreciation for the work and expense that goes into the process, as well as expanding my immediate community of brewers.
Soon, we take over the world! Mwa-ha-ha. *cough*
I may be alone here, but if you're gonna share it with them, asking them to pay for it is a bit... tacky. If a buddy of mine pointed to a "tip" jar every time I came over and had a beer, I may actually put in, but I would probably think less of the guy.
I love to share my beer with everybody I meet. If I go through a case in a day with my friends, that's on me. If you don't want them to drink it, don't offer it to them, don't tell them about a new recipe you're psyched about, and don't tell them the progress on your batches.
You don't have to share your homebrew. And if your friends really only come over to drink your brew, then that is a problem. But if you like to make it and you like to share what you've made with others, I think that cost is on you. UNTIL they start making requests. Then you are totally within rights to ask them to poney up. Just my two cents.
make a few 1 gallon batches of prison hooch, they'll be much more reluctant to drink your homebrew after that.
I'm saying +1 to making friends bring over some food... buy me some burgers to go with that beer!
wow, brewers most relate to this topic!
Great discussion. I wanna enjoy brewing and drinking, so ill just do that, no stress, if anyone abuses i can always not invite that person in the future.
Depends. I know some people who would never turn their nose up at a good toilet-bowl sangria.
It's only illegal if you get caught. But if you do get caught...ouch!
I always laugh when people talk about "converting" other people. Why would you do that? All that means is more people who want your homebrew and more competition for the craft beers in the beer store. I would say I could careless what other people drink, but I'd be lying, because I'd actually prefer them to drink BMC
Wacky, no.
Wacky would be buying claiming that the grain was for dog bicuits and the beer provided was free.
But there is a clear relationship between purchased ingredients and beer sales. I mention this because that is specifically how excise taxes are audited.
Obviously, it's not worth anyone's time on a small scale, but you can see where it would land you in trouble if say things got a little more enterprising even if the pints of beer were free. If a PR firm provided ingredients to you for weekly beer parties, etc.
I always laugh when people talk about "converting" other people. Why would you do that? All that means is more people who want your homebrew and more competition for the craft beers in the beer store. I would say I could careless what other people drink, but I'd be lying, because I'd actually prefer them to drink BMC
Seems to me, the more people that buy commercial craft beer would increase the need for the brewer to produce more, resulting in a brewer with a more stable economic base, which increases the likelihood that the brewer will stay in business longer producing your favorite craft beer. Also, the increased demand, and resulting increased revenue would mean greater distribution capacity -- more available in the local market, and an expanded geographic range of availability. Think of all those hot-to-trot brews that are only available on, say, the West Coast, that folks are going ga-ga for and having friends and family ship them to Timbuktu and beyond, suddenly available in your home town.
Also, think about the competing breweries working that much harder to keep a presence in the market by creating higher quality, and more interesting brews, constantly one-upping one another. Free trade and a strong market can be a good thing. A larger commercial craft brewing community also means more voices to be heard by the gov't (not that they listen all that much, anyway), and that means a stronger lobby for the brewers, and that means a louder voice for homebrewers too.
'Course, I could be full of carp, too. *grins*
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