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Evan!

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So here we go---batches #34 & 35. Giddyup, this is the longest I've gone without brewing since I started. It's been 6 or 7 weeks! I can't wait. I've got an AG Rochefort 10 and a PM Imperial Scottish Porter in the gates and ready to go.

I got to use my Barley Crusher for the first time yesterday, too. Damnit, that thing is just too badass. Worth every single penny. I ruined a cordless 12v drill while grinding, though, but that was my stupid fault. For some reason, without thinking, I switched between low and high gear while the thing was running. Duh. So the gears stripped. Oh well. Took it back to Lowe's today and exchanged it for a 14.4v DeWalt XRP cordless (only $60 more), since I already have another cordless 12v at home. But anyway, the BC's factory setting crush looks great. I just put the mill over top of a kettle, pour in the grain, and grind away. Goes very quickly, too...I was surprised.

So, as for the brews...

I got my AHS shipment in the mail on Friday, and smacked the Wyeast 1762 (Rochefort) that night. It had swollen to capacity by Saturday, so I made a huge starter for it, aerated it, and pitched. That night, I saw what looked like krausen, but as of today, it's completely still and the yeast has flocculated. But I'm pretty sure it's fermented out, because when I take a whiff of the starter jug, I get that strong alcohol burn in my nasal passages.

My question on that is: since it's finished fermenting this early (I'm brewing tomorrow morning and planning on pitching before noon), should I do anything about it? It is going to be okay, having finished this far ahead of pitching into the actual wort? Should I jumpstart it with some corn sugar?

The other brew, a partial mash porter---its starter isn't doing so well. I pitched some Scottish ale yeast that I harvested and cleaned from the wee heavy, but it was harvested in February and it's been sitting in a jar in my lagerator since then. I warmed it up to room temp and pitched it into its own starter, but have yet to see any activity (and no alcohol smell). I keep agitating it and put it on a heating pad, but nothing so far. Since it's a porter, if I don't see any activity soon, I'm just going to abandon it and pitch some dry US-56.

Oh, and just so I'm clear on this---you're no supposed to send flaked barley through the mill, right?:drunk:

Here are my two recipes. I don't have any hallertauer for the Rochefort (AHS was out), but I don't think it'll matter too much. The grains are already crushed for both of them, so I can't subtract anything, but I can add grains if anyone has any suggestions. I'll post them in subsequent messages. Wish me luck!
 
Rochefort 10

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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18-E Belgian Strong Ale, Belgian Dark Strong Ale

Min OG: 1.075 Max OG: 1.132
Min IBU: 15 Max IBU: 35
Min Clr: 14 Max Clr: 20 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 15.69
Anticipated OG: 1.097 Plato: 23.18
Anticipated SRM: 32.9
Anticipated IBU: 34.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
----------------

Evaporation Rate: 15.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 6.45 Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.075 SG 18.30 Plato

Formulas Used
-------------

Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
% Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Tinseth
Tinseth Concentration Factor: 1.30

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %
Additional Utilization Used For First Wort Hops: -10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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31.9 5.00 lbs. Gleneagle's Maris Otter Pale Great Britain 1.038 5
31.9 5.00 lbs. Pilsener Belgium 1.037 2
12.7 2.00 lbs. Honey Pennsylvania 1.042 0
6.4 1.00 lbs. Candi Sugar (clear) Generic 1.046 1
3.2 0.50 lbs. Candi Sugar (dark) Generic 1.046 275
9.6 1.50 lbs. CaraMunich Malt Belgium 1.033 75
3.2 0.50 lbs. Special B Malt Belgian 1.030 120
1.2 0.19 lbs. Carafa Special Germany 1.030 600

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.00 oz. Goldings - E.K. Whole 6.00 16.0 First WH
1.00 oz. Styrian Goldings Pellet 3.50 10.1 50 min.
0.50 oz. Fuggle Pellet 4.00 4.7 30 min.
1.00 oz. Hersbrucker Pellet 3.80 4.2 10 min.


Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
0.20 Oz Coriander Seed Spice 5 Min.(boil)
0.25 gm Grains of Paradise Spice 1 Days(boil)


Yeast
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WYeast 1762 Belgian Abbey II


Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Multi Step

Grain Lbs: 12.19
Water Qts: 14.64 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 3.66 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.20 - Before Additional Infusions

Intermediate Rest Temp : 133 Time: 30
Saccharification Rest Temp : 152 Time: 45
Mash-out Rest Temp : 158 Time: 20
Sparge Temp : 167 Time: 0


Total Mash Volume Gal: 4.64 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
 
Imperial Scottish Porter

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
-------------------------------

12-C Porter, Baltic Porter

Min OG: 1.060 Max OG: 1.090
Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 40
Min Clr: 17 Max Clr: 30 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 11.75
Anticipated OG: 1.075 Plato: 18.11
Anticipated SRM: 38.2
Anticipated IBU: 43.3
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
----------------

Evaporation Rate: 15.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 5.88 Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.063 SG 15.54 Plato

Formulas Used
-------------

Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
% Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Tinseth
Tinseth Concentration Factor: 1.30

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %
Additional Utilization Used For First Wort Hops: -10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
51.1 6.00 lbs. Gleneagle's Maris Otter Pale Great Britain 1.038 5
25.5 3.00 lbs. Briess DME- Extra Light America 1.046 8
8.5 1.00 lbs. Flaked Barley America 1.032 2
4.3 0.50 lbs. Chocolate Malt America 1.029 350
4.3 0.50 lbs. Special B Malt Belgian 1.030 120
2.1 0.25 lbs. Black Patent Malt America 1.028 525
2.1 0.25 lbs. Roasted Barley Belgium 1.030 575
2.1 0.25 lbs. Scottish Peated Malt Scotland 1.038 5

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.50 oz. Northern Brewer Whole 6.50 28.4 First WH
1.00 oz. Goldings - E.K. Whole 6.00 11.7 20 min.
0.25 oz. Tettnanger Pellet 4.00 1.8 15 min.
0.25 oz. Tettnanger Pellet 4.00 1.1 8 min.
0.25 oz. Tettnanger Pellet 4.00 0.3 2 min.


Yeast
-----

WYeast 1728 Scotish Ale


Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step

Grain Lbs: 8.75
Water Qts: 10.94 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 2.73 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.25 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 153 Time: 60
Mash-out Rest Temp : 158 Time: 20
Sparge Temp : 167 Time: 10


Total Mash Volume Gal: 3.43 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
 
1 I would crash cool it if there was enough slurrey to use or you can bump it up and pitch at high krausen....your call.

2 Wait, I'd say it will take off and if it don't you always have the dry yeast backup.

Hope it works out for you.
 
Flaked barley doesn't need to be milled. It's already rolled at high pressure and the starches are readily accessible. No harm done though, the worse you'd get from milling it is a slightly more difficult sparge I'd imagine.
 
boo boo said:
1 I would crash cool it if there was enough slurrey to use or you can bump it up and pitch at high krausen....your call.

2 Wait, I'd say it will take off and if it don't you always have the dry yeast backup.

Hope it works out for you.

Well, yeah...but I don't want to add that old yeast if it's all dead...it doesn't smell autolysis-ey, but you never know.
 
Pabst Blue Robot said:
Flaked barley doesn't need to be milled. It's already rolled at high pressure and the starches are readily accessible. No harm done though, the worse you'd get from milling it is a slightly more difficult sparge I'd imagine.

Nah, I didn't mill it, I was just making sure I made the right choice.
 
I'd cold-crash the starter; I'm not a fan of adding any more over-aerated, non-hopped starter beer to my batch than is absolutely necessary. I'd avoid using corn sugar to jump-start it, there's some technical reason I can't remember exactly to avoid using simple sugars in yeast propogation, Even though you've already woken them up, it seems like a bad idea.
 
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