AdamCanFly
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Can't wait to order one for my brewery! One step at a time though.
Jaybird's Stainless False Bottoms
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Toecutter
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i just took my measurments. I need a flat piece of sheet 11 1/4 x 21 1/4. I can probably radius the corners. Idea is to just lay this flat on top of my copper manifold in the bottom to minimize channeling.
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Thanks Jay. False bottom with hinge and handle, SS dip tube, and Home Brewed bottle openers are great. Brewed 2 back-to-back batches with the new FB on Father's day. Perfect.
BTW, I don't bother with the compression fitting nut and rings. I just insert the tube into the threaded coupling (half of the compression fitting I guess).
BTW, I don't bother with the compression fitting nut and rings. I just insert the tube into the threaded coupling (half of the compression fitting I guess).
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Thanks Jay. False bottom with hinge and handle, SS dip tube, and Home Brewed bottle openers are great. Brewed 2 back-to-back batches with the new FB on Father's day. Perfect.
BTW, I don't bother with the compression fitting nut and rings. I just insert the tube into the threaded coupling (half of the compression fitting I guess).
Back to back batches huh? Be careful, you just may get addicted to this crazy little hobby!
Back to back batches huh? Be careful, you just may get addicted to this crazy little hobby!
I've got 5000+ posts. I've already flown over the cuckoo's nest.
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Does anyone use these in igloo mash tuns?
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And can you boil wort with this in place in a keggle.
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I build many of these for Igloo, Gott and Rubermade cooler mash tun conversions, both 5 gallon and 10 gallon. They are custom cut for your cooler as not all coolers are the same..
Yes you can as many people here can tell you, they use this in the boil kettle as well.
I use a 15" hinged in my mash tun and my boil kettle. In the Mash I can flow at full rate if I like and never stick the mash. In the Boil I use whole hops and pellet hops and I just toss em' in the kettle without a bag. I get a little of the pellet hops through but very little.
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That's what intrigues me. Any idea the keggle deadspace with these?
If you use a dip tube, then it's essentially zero. Without a dip tube you are probably looking at between 1 and 2 quarts. The false bottom sits on the curve, on the bottom, so there isn't much space below it.
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Perfect, I planned on using the dip dube.
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One other question. I got my keggle directly from sabco with the valve installed there. Is the dip tube easy to connect to it?
Yes. It's a little tricky at first, but once you've done it a few times it's not hard. The trick is to remove (and also install) the dip tube and screen as one unit. You can't put the screen in first, then add the dip tube.
Although there is a compression fitting which allows you to attach / remove the dip tube fairly easily, I found that it was easier to just screw the compression fitting into the keggles adapter but NOT use the compression nut. You'll see.
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I also build the dip tubes custom for your system, so it really doesn't matter where or how your keg is set up. I have a formula that I use, I only need 2 measurements from you and I do the rest.
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oregonparamedic
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Finally ordered the FB and a matching dip tube. Can't wait to get them installed!
oregonparamedic
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Great work Jay and perfect fit!
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For those of you that are using the 15" hinged with a hole and a dipube, I am now drilling the hole off center 1/4" still splitting the sheered edge. So its dead center from the edge to the spit but off center 90* out from the split. What this does is gives you a better fit and you dont have to be quite as perfect on the measurement for the diptube. You can spin the false bottom and have 3 measurement options. Just 1 more way I am trying to get you guys custom equipment for your kettles that fit like a glove!
Ohh and dont miss out on the free shipping for the rest of August. I started a new thread just for that.https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f41/free-shipping-264159/
Cheers
Jay
Ohh and dont miss out on the free shipping for the rest of August. I started a new thread just for that.https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f41/free-shipping-264159/
Cheers
Jay
maximus
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My Jaybird 15" false bottom will be deflowered tomorrow with a 10 gallon American Pale Ale. So far I am very impressed with the quality of material and workmanship. I will let you know how the brew day goes. I wish I could have gotten in on the free shipping, maybe next time.
Thanks,
Max
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Max
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maximus
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The brew went very well. I had around 20 pounds of grain in my keg mash tun and I had no issues with a stuck sparge. Just to experiment I opened up my march pump all the way for a few minutes while recirculating. I probably could have left it wide open the whole time, no slow down at all. Awesome product. One of the best brewing purchases I have made. I hit around 75% efficiency using a single infusion single sparge mash. My previous stainless steel braid was very susceptible to stuck mashes, even with 5 gallon batches. It doesn't appear this will be a problem for me in the future. Thanks for the awesome product and great service. Will definitely send business your way in the future.
I usually brew 10 gallon batches, so my grain bills are 25-30 lbs for a pale ale. I always recirculate with a March 809HS full speed through my RIMS the entire duration of the mash. Only had one stuck mash, but it was mostly wheat. Jaybird's FB's are robust and top notch. Don't hesitate to let that pump rip!
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Great to hear it went well! Thanks for the business!
I love to see a plan come together!
Pickles
I admit it. I stuck a wheat a long time ago too.... 60% wheat 35%pale and 5% misc grain..... No rice hulls and a 12" false bottom. It stuck so damn tight, it took me about 30 min to loosen it up and get the rice hulls mixed in so it could flow. Beer turned out killer though...
Yep, similar grain bill to mine. I defy any FB maker to claim there's will perform better under those conditions. Truth is that it's too much to ask of a FB without ricehulls and the like. At that point it's all about the mash and has little if anything to do with the FB.
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cwheel
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Just got my 12" false bottom in the mail. It's a thing of beauty. For the price Jay and Victor offer, its almost impossible to buy a 12"x12" stainless steel sheet of this grade and hole spacing, nevermind cutting it with what looks like a plasma cutter, and adding a handle. Can't wait to use it!
HellBentBrewCo
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I got a false bottom, dip tube and weldless ball valve kit from norcalbrewing. There were no instructions included with the weldless kit so I'm just wondering what order everything goes in. Is it coupler, washer, O-ring, keg wall then ball valve or does the o ring go on the outside?
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We are adding to our "how to" section on our site, pictures of exactly how those are going together. I Sent you an e-mail... But since we are here, it is just like you said.
coupling, stainless washer, silicone O ring, keg then ball valve and barbed nipple.
Cheers
Jay
If I'm doing a 10 gal beverage cooler, do I need a dip tube?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Nope. We build the stand tall enough that the drain is under the false bottom.
Sorry for the delay on the post banik.....
Cheers
Jay
dburgette
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Any deals coming over the horizon? I'm close to needing one of these.
jvino
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I agree. I'm about to finally get my "brutus" clone wrapped up. I hope to be brewing by the end of this month. Any deals on false bottoms and dip tubes coming soon??
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I would love to guys but I am slammmmmed at the store right now and it would probably put me over the top if I did one right now....
I will offer one up before Dec for you guys. Just because you asked.....
Nope...I do however sell the domed ones in my store from Fermentap that you see everywhere.
Cheers
Jay
jvino
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Thanks Jay. One question, is a false bottom the way to go in the boil or do you have a different "hop stopper" kind of option??
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It really depends on what your trying to stop. Whole vs Pellet, and how much. Are you using 3 oz in a 10 gallon batch or are you using 20?
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dburgette
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I will offer one up before Dec for you guys. Just because you asked.....
a man of the people. I will keep my ears open.
Me too! I have talked a few of my friends into ordering these fb's, now its my turn...
Do you have the fitment perfected for the usual 15.5g US Microstar style kegs or do I still need to measure? I want to get the 15" fb with hinge, handle, and diptube as soon as the next deal comes around.
Do you have the fitment perfected for the usual 15.5g US Microstar style kegs or do I still need to measure? I want to get the 15" fb with hinge, handle, and diptube as soon as the next deal comes around.
jvino
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Jay,
Let's assume 20oz whole and pellets as a worse case scenario. What would you recommend?? Do you have a product that will work??
Thanks
Jeremiah
Let's assume 20oz whole and pellets as a worse case scenario. What would you recommend?? Do you have a product that will work??
Thanks
Jeremiah
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Yep the 15" hinged with the hop halter insert. Add a handle for easy access and removal. The 15" will stop all the whole hops and the halter will do the rest.
Cheers
Jay
Ridebreck
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Jay, does the hop halter have SS screen on the top too? I'm trying to envision how this goes together with the false bottom and dip tube. Any more pics other than the one on your site that could provide a clearer picture?
Thanks.
Thanks.
