You'll never get carbonation in a corny unless you use a CO2 tank. Why? Because the lid won't seal unless you pressurize the keg. If you rack to the corny, prime, then seal the lid, all your precious CO2 will just leak right out. You need to pressurize the keg with a blast of CO2 to seal it.Uncle Fat said:MoreBeer (among others) sells a settable pressure relief valve for a corny, so you can let your beer carbonate to whatever pressure you want in the secondary. Then, to dispense, you attach your tap line to the 'gas-in' connection of the corny (instead of the 'out' connection). Now put your corny upside down to allow the weight of the beer feed the tap instead of pressure.
That's how you cask in a corny.
bikebryan said:You'll never get carbonation in a corny unless you use a CO2 tank.
Uncle Fat said:My last four of five batches would disagree with you.. I usually have a keg on tap, so I just do my secondary in a corny with a pressure valve, and by the time I'm done with what's on tap, the next batch is naturally carbonated and ready to drink.
kneemoe said:- one question tho,
put the corny upside down and do a gravity feed to use it as a cask, ok straight-foward enough, but how does the corny get more air in it to allow the beer to flow if its upside down? you guys fitting them with a different blow-off valve or just turning it right side up when it starts movin slow?
I guess you plan on drinking that entire corny in a day or two? Letting just plain old air into it is NOT a good thing and if you don't drink it quick it'll start to go bad pretty quick with room air entering it!Uncle Fat said:The upside down thing I haven't done myself (only read about). It's supposed to be a more authentic cask expericnce... If I were doing it (might try this soon), I'd put an open-ended ball-lock connector (or maybe one connected to a filter) on the "out" connection (attached to the down-tube) to let air in. Pretty much just the oposite of normal keg operation.
bikebryan said:I guess you plan on drinking that entire corny in a day or two? Letting just plain old air into it is NOT a good thing and if you don't drink it quick it'll start to go bad pretty quick with room air entering it!
Ah, but if you are planning on using CO2 to keep air from getting in the keg, you might as well use it to carbonate.....Uncle Fat said:Well... yeah... we'd been talking about that in the past couple of posts (using a 2.5gal corny and / or inviting a BUNCH of friends over to drink it). Of course, you could always dispense with CO2 (and/or nitro) set to very low PSI to get the "real ale" experience without letting outside air in... whatever your fancy...
bikebryan said:Ah, but if you are planning on using CO2 to keep air from getting in the keg, you might as well use it to carbonate.....
But we are going round and round in circles now.
OK, OK, I wasn't trying to fight, but I do have a question, since you brought this up:kneemoe said:whats wrong with keeping my beer fresh and free from infection? especially if im not changing the beer in doing so?
obviously, not tryin to pick a fight here, but there's plenty of different views on *this* subject
bikebryan said:OK, OK, I wasn't trying to fight, but I do have a question, since you brought this up:
How does carbonating from a CO2 bottle "change" the beer? CO2 is CO2. The beer is exactly the same regardless of how the CO2 gets into it.
bikebryan said:How does carbonating from a CO2 bottle "change" the beer? CO2 is CO2. The beer is exactly the same regardless of how the CO2 gets into it.
Sudster said:That's interesting. I do notice a difference too. I'm not sure if it is from some by-product of the yeast converting fermentables or the actual size of the bubbles. I have noticed that my forced carb beer has larger bubbles than the bottle conditioned beer. Maybe size does matter.
ScottT said:You know it, bubble size does matter. To me, that's what makes the beer in the UK so much better than here. It's also the reason that I will be naturally conditioning all my brews weather in the bottle or in keg.
To me, force carbonated beer isn't nearly as smooth drinking, nor does it have as nice a head on it.
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