If you have seen my posts here in the cider forum you know the recipe I keep saying is just awesome.
here is a pic.
here is a pic.
You talking about your apfelwine with the grains?
I can see adding malt (I don't, but I understand the reasoning) but once you start adding hops, it is no longer cider IMHO. Could be pretty good beer-like-substance though.
What's the fruit content?
what was that black cider you where talking about
I think we should name Brandon's invention Graff - as the ingredient list he has posted makes me think of this "strong apple beer" described in Steven Kings Series of books.
what do you think... wanna call it Graff?
Hey Brandon..
How long do you usually age this till it is drinkable. Months? Years? Decades?
Just curious. I rounded up all the ingredients this week and plan on throwing it all in a carboy this weekend.
Well, I just bottled my very first cider over the weekend and was trying to decide what my next one would be, I think I've found it! :rockin:
I like the name Graff as well, it makes it kind of unique to have its own name, but, as the original brewer, I leave the decision up to Brandon.
Graff it is.
The recipe is one I found here tho, I just switched up the grains a bit and added hops to counter the tart.
Really quick, stupid question.. but you are only boiling about 1 gallon of water right? You're not boiling the apple juice as well are you? I'm just trying to figure out the process so I can get to making a batch.
Really quick, stupid question.. but you are only boiling about 1 gallon of water right? You're not boiling the apple juice as well are you? I'm just trying to figure out the process so I can get to making a batch.
To avoid any continual debate on the "cider" moniker for this recipie
I propose we call it something totally different...
Are any of you ladies and gents familiar with Steven King's
"Dark Tower" series of books?
anyway - in this series, in addition to common wines and beers a made up drink called "Graff" Graff is commonly served at bars and events. the only discription of it describes it as a "strong apple beer"
not a cider or wine, but a "beer" - evidently while being quite quaffable, it packs a bit of a punch, and Gunslingers (the protagonists of the series) tend to enjoy it in moderation because of this "sneak up and bite you" property of the drink.
I think we should name Brandon's invention Graff - as the ingredient list he has posted makes me think of this "strong apple beer" described in Steven Kings Series of books.
what do you think... wanna call it Graff?
Oh, and Brandon, I've got something like this in the fermenter right now, letting it clear out, except no wheat or hops, more crystal, and less DME (ok, nothing like it, but it's a malted cider that I also made in an attempt to get something a little richer that Apfelwein). I'll have to give the Graff a shot next time, maybe I'll have finished the last Tower book by then.
Cheers,
BB
I just racked my 3 week old batch into a secondary. Way more apple flavor than I have tasted in anything so young. I used 1 ounce of some old Liberty hops (prolly a year old) with AA of 4% Next time I am going to use a smidge more. This stuff is gonna be a winner.
if you steep and boil in juice instead of water, it will haze and/or jelly up.
that's the reason for the water.
I can tell this stuff is going to go down easy.
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