Easier than I thought but I probably messed up somewhere. Used the recipe from the WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THIS thread... The only thing I think I messed up on was I dropped the temp REAL fast and lower than 70 degrees. Put the brew pot in a sink full of ice water ( I sell cookware and they are VERY conductive so it dropped QUICK.) Then I poured the boiled wort into the primary over some ice water .. I was below 70 in under ten minutes.........I had to heat up water and add back in..... ANYWAY I got it to 70 and the yeast was started and also at 70 so I took an OG reading ( 1.052) and pitched the yeast...... My son was here and HAD to taste the drops left in the hydrometer tube. If it tastes this good finished I will be happy. NOW to start worrying lol...I have a 6 pack of pale bock lager so ease my mind.