How much Melanoidin suggested?

Twofox · Mar 22, 2010

Hi,

I'm working up an amber that needs some red hue to it. One of the things I'm considering is adding some melanoidin malt, but the question is how much. A little extra maltiness is ok, but I don't want too much. Here's what I'm thinking so far.

6# pale DME
.5# crystal 40L
.5# crystal 60L
.25# Melanoidin?

1 oz Willamette @ 60 mins
1 oz Amarillo @ 15 mins
1 oz Amarillo dryhop

What do you all think?

dwarven_stout · Mar 22, 2010

In my experience, melanoidin gets noticeable fast. I tried an amber with 8oz that was over the top. One other option that has worked for me in the past is to use 2 oz chocolate malt for color with little flavor in an amber.

Malticulous · Mar 23, 2010

To get red you will have to use a small amount of dark malts or a good dose of dark crystal malt. Carafa Special adds the least flavor.

Twofox · Mar 23, 2010

Hmm ok. The other thing I had though about for red color was some roasted barley. Wiki suggests less than 1%. For a just a little red hue, maybe a tiny tiny bit?

ghpeel · Mar 23, 2010

I used 8oz in a Belgian Amber and it was pretty malty. I'd probably drop down to 4oz if I brewed it again.

jjones17 · Mar 24, 2010

Ok wierdly enough I cannot get enough melanoidin... so maybe I am not the best source. However, I would not stop at using half pound or more, in a hoppy beer anyway. Your recipe may be light enough to cut back to 1/2 oz?

Malticulous · Mar 24, 2010

I'm not sure how well it steeps. It will not convert it's self. Steeping it you may need more of it anyway. I mashed a pound in a five gallon batch and I thought it was too much (but the beer was still good.) I don't think it's the best way to get the 12-15 SRM for a red color beer.

pkeeler · Mar 24, 2010

Do people get the same overwhelming flavor from CaraRed? How about combining Carared with Melanoidin? Maybe 1/2 lb of the first and a 1/4 lb of the second, or something.

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