shaunvfx
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Hey All -- my first post, and I will be brewing my own beer for the first time this week.
For my first brew, I would like to brew Hoptober (New Belgium) as it is a rotating seasonal and not available this year. For those of you who haven't had it, I have only heard praises from anyone I have asked to try it... and they turn around and buy cases to stock up.
In any case, I have been looking up clone recipes and I have yet to find any that come anywhere close (on paper) to what NB claims on their site.
Here is from NB on Hoptober
http://www.newbelgium.com/beer/detail.aspx?id=6780bca7-5177-4fb5-8665-1a2721d12236
ABV - 6.0%
IBU - 40
Calories - 160
Hops - Centennial, Cascade, Sterling, Glacier, Willamette
Malts - Pale, Rye, Oats, C-80, Wheat
Body - Medium
Aroma - Bonfire of citrusy notes: think grapefruit, lemon, grassy and pine
Mouthfeel - Nice smooth start then finishes crisp
Any of the recipes that I have found seem to ignore the first 3 items, ABV, IBU and Calories. Most on average have an ABV of 5.7%, IBU in the 50s or 60s and Calories (after calculating using Hopville or BrewSmith) of 200+.
I think one of the reasons the beer is so drinkable, and you can almost plow through a whole six pack no problem is that the calories are low.
I have been trying to formulate a recipe that will yield 160 calories using all the ingredients mentioned but it seems that in order to get to 160 you need to have an OG of about ~1.05 and a FG of ~1.005. Unfortunately I have had to add a considerable amount of sugar to get to the correct calories and abv.... I have fiddled with this for quite some time and I am ready for help. I have also set Steep/mash temp to 148 for 70min and an overall efficiency of 72% (i know this could be high).
In any case here is the recipe I developed, i know the %'s are crazy but you get the general idea here. I have also included the calculations for abv, og, fg and calories.
1 lbs 13.7 oz Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) 24.1%
1 lbs 13.2 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) 23.70%
1 lbs 10.4 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) 21.50%
8.4 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) 6.80%
4.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) 3.40%
12.6 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) 10.20%
12.6 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) 10.20%
1.00 oz Glacier [5.60 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days 0.0 IBUs
0.75 oz Sterling [7.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min 8.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min 15.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min 8.7 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min 6.7 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale V (White Labs #WLP051) [35.49 ml] -
Est Original Gravity: 1.051 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.0 %
Bitterness: 39.9 IBUs Calories: 166.2 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6.3 SRM
If someone has the time to help me out I would very much appreciate it. I love this beer and would like to try and get close to it, I realize I have no idea the amount of anything they use, but all the ingredients are there. I will be doing partial mash.
You can check out this link for an average clone that is indicative of most I have found.
http://hopville.com/recipe/320695
For my first brew, I would like to brew Hoptober (New Belgium) as it is a rotating seasonal and not available this year. For those of you who haven't had it, I have only heard praises from anyone I have asked to try it... and they turn around and buy cases to stock up.
In any case, I have been looking up clone recipes and I have yet to find any that come anywhere close (on paper) to what NB claims on their site.
Here is from NB on Hoptober
http://www.newbelgium.com/beer/detail.aspx?id=6780bca7-5177-4fb5-8665-1a2721d12236
ABV - 6.0%
IBU - 40
Calories - 160
Hops - Centennial, Cascade, Sterling, Glacier, Willamette
Malts - Pale, Rye, Oats, C-80, Wheat
Body - Medium
Aroma - Bonfire of citrusy notes: think grapefruit, lemon, grassy and pine
Mouthfeel - Nice smooth start then finishes crisp
Any of the recipes that I have found seem to ignore the first 3 items, ABV, IBU and Calories. Most on average have an ABV of 5.7%, IBU in the 50s or 60s and Calories (after calculating using Hopville or BrewSmith) of 200+.
I think one of the reasons the beer is so drinkable, and you can almost plow through a whole six pack no problem is that the calories are low.
I have been trying to formulate a recipe that will yield 160 calories using all the ingredients mentioned but it seems that in order to get to 160 you need to have an OG of about ~1.05 and a FG of ~1.005. Unfortunately I have had to add a considerable amount of sugar to get to the correct calories and abv.... I have fiddled with this for quite some time and I am ready for help. I have also set Steep/mash temp to 148 for 70min and an overall efficiency of 72% (i know this could be high).
In any case here is the recipe I developed, i know the %'s are crazy but you get the general idea here. I have also included the calculations for abv, og, fg and calories.
1 lbs 13.7 oz Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) 24.1%
1 lbs 13.2 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) 23.70%
1 lbs 10.4 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) 21.50%
8.4 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) 6.80%
4.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) 3.40%
12.6 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) 10.20%
12.6 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) 10.20%
1.00 oz Glacier [5.60 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days 0.0 IBUs
0.75 oz Sterling [7.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min 8.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min 15.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min 8.7 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min 6.7 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale V (White Labs #WLP051) [35.49 ml] -
Est Original Gravity: 1.051 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.0 %
Bitterness: 39.9 IBUs Calories: 166.2 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6.3 SRM
If someone has the time to help me out I would very much appreciate it. I love this beer and would like to try and get close to it, I realize I have no idea the amount of anything they use, but all the ingredients are there. I will be doing partial mash.
You can check out this link for an average clone that is indicative of most I have found.
http://hopville.com/recipe/320695