jamesampm
Well-Known Member
there's a whole lot of angry people in here.
Hell, given that it basically makes the beer for you (very little work on the part of the brewer), I don't see this a limitation that people should care about. Simply run the thing twice to get that 5 gallons.1. Not everyone is interested in 5 gallon batches. Some might want to do less.
There sure are a lot of people in this thread that don't get the PicoBrew. Here's what has been mentioned so far, and maybe a bit more. A summary, if you don't care to read the list below: it ain't necessarily about you.
1. Not everyone is interested in 5 gallon batches. Some might want to do less.
2. Not everyone is interested in spending 4-6 hours in the garage RIMSing or HERMSing out a batch of beer.
3. Not everyone has the room for some of the setups seen on HBT, let alone a ROOM or a BUILDING for homebrewing.
4. The folks making PicoBrew, or BrewBot, or what we may see in future aren't necessarily marketing it to what we think of as the "normal" homebrewer.
5. Some of us (like me) have to look forward to moving and a serious downsizing in several years. I'm pretty sure my current homebrewing setup won't make the cut. So I'll have to maybe cut back to just making some cider / Apfelwein, or maybe I can have a PicoBrew and still have my homebrew? Sounds like a pretty easy choice to me.
There sure are a lot of people in this thread that don't get the PicoBrew. Here's what has been mentioned so far, and maybe a bit more. A summary, if you don't care to read the list below: it ain't necessarily about you.
1. Not everyone is interested in 5 gallon batches. Some might want to do less.
2. Not everyone is interested in spending 4-6 hours in the garage RIMSing or HERMSing out a batch of beer.
3. Not everyone has the room for some of the setups seen on HBT, let alone a ROOM or a BUILDING for homebrewing.
4. The folks making PicoBrew, or BrewBot, or what we may see in future aren't necessarily marketing it to what we think of as the "normal" homebrewer.
5. Some of us (like me) have to look forward to moving and a serious downsizing in several years. I'm pretty sure my current homebrewing setup won't make the cut. So I'll have to maybe cut back to just making some cider / Apfelwein, or maybe I can have a PicoBrew and still have my homebrew? Sounds like a pretty easy choice to me.
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It isn't even at the delivery stage yet; I believe ALL the specific criticisms are unwarranted at this point.
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It isn't even at the delivery stage yet; I believe ALL the specific criticisms are unwarranted at this point.
There sure are a lot of people in this thread that don't get the PicoBrew. Here's what has been mentioned so far, and maybe a bit more. A summary, if you don't care to read the list below: it ain't necessarily about you.
1. Not everyone is interested in 5 gallon batches. Some might want to do less.
2. Not everyone is interested in spending 4-6 hours in the garage RIMSing or HERMSing out a batch of beer.
3. Not everyone has the room for some of the setups seen on HBT, let alone a ROOM or a BUILDING for homebrewing.
4. The folks making PicoBrew, or BrewBot, or what we may see in future aren't necessarily marketing it to what we think of as the "normal" homebrewer.
5. Some of us (like me) have to look forward to moving and a serious downsizing in several years. I'm pretty sure my current homebrewing setup won't make the cut. So I'll have to maybe cut back to just making some cider / Apfelwein, or maybe I can have a PicoBrew and still have my homebrew? Sounds like a pretty easy choice to me.
This thread has gone full-on-ridiculous. Who cares what people want to do with THEIR money. If you don't like the idea of the machine, well then don't buy it. I'm pretty sure we're all adults here and being such, we can make an informed decision.
This thread has gone full-on-ridiculous. Who cares what people want to do with THEIR money. If you don't like the idea of the machine, well then don't buy it. I'm pretty sure we're all adults here and being such, we can make an informed decision.
I agree with pretty much all you said, except that last bit. I don't see this being useful to probrewers to make pilot batches. The only use would be for eveluation of ingredients, e.g. "how does hop A and hop B work together?"...I don't hate this product. Actually I think It's quite a nice piece of engineering, but IMO it's just not very practical as currently presented for the money. The main marketing for this as of right now is for pro brewers to make pilot batches, and for that it may be well suited.
This is a such a classic meme here whenever someone proposes new gadget and/or process ideas...
A: I have this new thing that will be awesome and it does this and that.
B: Based on what you've presented so far, I don't think it's going to work the way you're expecting.
C: Yes, I agree.
D: Yes, I agree.
E: Yes, I agree.
F: Screw all you elitists just piling on to the poor guy. At least he's thinking outside of the box.
A: Here is my kickstarter.....
C: D: E: Facepalm
F: Horray!
Where do I stand? Extremely skeptical with a healthy dose of don't give a shiP
If you have complete control over the brew process I could see myself buying this to brew 3-4 times a week and really dial in recipes!
Well thats a real shame this could have been awesome! I will still check it out but if it does not give me homebrew style control I dont know that it will work for me![/QUOTE
I would not hesitate to check into it if you are interested. There are some factual drawbacks, but those are clearly listed on the website, such as the batch size limitation, and the fact that this is simply a wort maker with no cooling ability or fermentation ability. Some of the other perceived drawbacks that some in this thread have pointed out are that it can't get rid of DMS and that since it only gets up to 208F that there is no actual boil, but those 2 things are not really proven, because we really don't know if it can't remove DMS for a fact, and we really don't know for sure that 208f wort is detrimental to brewing. So this machine may make great wort, or it may not. The jury is still out. Of course the other issues pointed out are cost and maintenance. Still a nice piece of engineering IMO.
From a conceptual standpoint, this PicoBrew to me is not that much different than some highly sophisticated systems that use pumps and the like (HERMS, etc.). The main difference is this is much more accessible and probably affordable.
LOL @ your blunt honesty. Yes, for most people it will be a very expensive breadmaker. But then again, some DO still use their breadmakers...just nobody I know.This thing is lame and will fail. People get into home brewing because it's fun and rewarding. Some people will buy this as a novelty item, use it twice, and then it'll be a dust collector. I mean, what is the point of this thing? It would be cheaper and easier to just buy some craft beer than to waste your time automating the process and waiting for it to ferment.
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I've been brewing for over 30 years and find it harder and harder to find the toluene to brew...
I've been brewing for over 30 years and find it harder and harder to find the toluene to brew, especially with 2 young kids. I just lost all my brew equipment in a fire and find this solution very appealing. If it makes good beer and gives you great control over the process, why not go with it? Who cares if someone from Microsoft came up with it or if he's a millionaire. If you have a good idea and people are willing to take a risk more power to you. I think I'm going to invest my money into it. Set and forget it. I've got enough receipts to give it a run for its money.
Sorry about the fire. I also have two kids, but manage to find time to brew.
The concerns over this machine have been discussed ad nauseum over the course of this thread. If you want to spend your money on this system that's your business. However, no one gives a rats behind about who's producing it...just that it works...and it hasn't been vetted yet.
As an aside, you've certainly been brewing for a long time...and I guess you waited a while to have kids...your late 40's? Anyway, nice 2nd post in 2 years...doesn't seem suspect at all.
Lol, the jerk store called, and they're running out of you. Not everyone is the same dude...why so defensive and suspicious?
I don't have any kids and I am interested to see what the reviews will be when it gets out there more.
I've been brewing for over 30 years and find it harder and harder to find the toluene to brew, especially with 2 young kids.
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