How to burn up a pound of cascade? Recipe suggestions welcomed

I am looking to brew something on Fathers Day this year and I want to burn up a pound of whole cone cascade hops. I do 10 gallon batches. IPA is the obvious choice, but i want to switch it up for this one. Maybe an imperial brown?

Ken Schramm's "Hefty Braggot" might be a novel alternative. If you make it now, it ought to be ridiculously good by the time cold weather hits again. If you do try this, don't use the wine yeast as he recommends. I did that the first time I made this with bad results (stuck at 1.052). Scottish ale yeast is perfect for this recipe. Just mash a couple degrees lower and it all comes out just fine.

Whenever I have hops to burn, I just put them in my chimney charcoal ignitor and let-er-rip.

That braggot sounds good, though.

I've read The Compleat Meadmaker, but haven't made the Hefty Braggot recipe. It looks real good though. It calls for 5oz of Cascade, but he says you can double the additions if you love hops. So +1 on that.

Along these same lines, you can go for really nice and hoppy Barleywine. Similar to a dIPA, but more malt forward and different enough to be considered. Plus, because the malt profile is so intense and you have to age it so long, you can hop the hell out of it. Some 2-row or Maris Otter and a healthy amount of Munich and Crystal and you're in business.

I've never made an all Cascade Imperial Stout (I like to mix with Northern Brewer), but you might be able to use a small chunk of that pound making one. I imagine this would work well in your proposed Imperial Brown as well, as Cascade really melds well in those roasty, chocolatey beers.

Or I can PM you my address and you can send them to me .

Hmmm, I had a beer from a cask at a local craft-brew hot spot down here in the south that used Cascade only. It was an excellent beer, maybe because I paid premium for it? Heh, anyhow, it's one of those all-purpose hops that I don't think you can go wrong.

There's always a hop-bursted extra pale ale.

Hopbursting will surely be part of the equation, I think I want something in that 1.070 to 1.090 OG, this really isn't even a style I guess, but what about double pale ale? Like an IPA, but just not as dried out with a little balance towards malt with an OG at 1.070 and use some english yeast?

An IPA is technically the step up from a pale ale. Pale ale style guidelines are what keep it a pale ale, i.e. gravity usually below 1.060 and a bu:gu ratio to match. Bring the gravity and IBU's up and you just have an IPA.

Or, are you talking about keeping a ~40-45 IBU beer but pumping up the gravity and making it more malt forward and unbalanced in the sense of bitterness? Remember, when you hop burst the resulting beer is not as bitter. A 45 IBU bittering addition will be much stronger and last longer than a 45 IBU 20 minute addition. I'm not telling you not to brew what you describe, just trying to figure out the method behind it. Best part about homebrewing is brewing what you want

SethMasterFlex said:

An IPA is technically the step up from a pale ale. Pale ale style guidelines are what keep it a pale ale, i.e. gravity usually below 1.060 and a bu:gu ratio to match. Bring the gravity and IBU's up and you just have an IPA.

Or, are you talking about keeping a ~40-45 IBU beer but pumping up the gravity and making it more malt forward and unbalanced in the sense of bitterness?

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This is correct. Like maybe a single 10 oz charge at 10-15 minutes. Then the last 6 oz for dry hopping.

Two Row
Munich
C40
C60
victory
WLP007
etc..etc....

Looks really good to me. I love Victory in pales and IPAs. Cascade blends really well with crystal 60 too. I say just pump the IBUs a little as I mentioned before to compensate for bitterness loss. Please let us know if you brew this and how it turns out as I'm highly interested.

SethMasterFlex said:

Looks really good to me. I love Victory in pales and IPAs. Cascade blends really well with crystal 60 too. I say just pump the IBUs a little as I mentioned before to compensate for bitterness loss. Please let us know if you brew this and how it turns out as I'm highly interested.

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proposed recipe


Type: All Grain
Date: 6/13/2011
Batch Size: 12.00 gal
Brewer: CP
Boil Size: 14.84 gal
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: 20 gallon pot 54 Q cooler
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00

Amount Item Type % or IBU
21.00 lb Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 72.41 %
4.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 13.79 %
1.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.17 %
1.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.17 %
1.00 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3.45 %
6.00 oz Cascade [4.80 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.50 %] (60 min) Hops 19.1 IBU
10.00 oz Cascade [4.80 %] (10 min) Hops 22.9 IBU



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.068 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.017
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.58 %
Bitterness: 42.1 IBU
Est Color: 12.1 SRM

Mash at 152 and use WLP007 at 68 degrees.

You really want to burn through some Cascade?

You can easily sub Victory for the carapils if you want a bit of a biscuit note, and I think this beer can also lend to a higher gravity. I attached the base recipe, but you can tweek it to your liking. Note - a pound of hops is actually going to leave you a couple ounces short for 10 gallons!

Epic Pale Ale - 5 gallon batch

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/can-you-brew-recipe-epic-pale-ale-194085/

OG 1.052
FG 1.011-1.012
IBUs 23.2
SRM 8.3

9.5 lbs Golden Promise 80%
1.2 lbs Baird's Caramalt 10%
6.5 oz Carapils 3.3%
13 oz Fawcett Pale Crystal 6.6%

90 minute boil

0.25 oz Cascade 7.5%AA at 75m
0.50 oz Cascade at 30m
1.25 oz Cascade at 10m
1.50 oz Cascade at 0m
Wait ten minutes
1.50oz Cascade - hot whirlpool for 10 more minutes
2 oz Cascade dry hop dose 1 at ferment temps for 5 days
2 oz Cascade dry hop dose 2 at cold crash temps for 5 days

Wyeast 1272 American Ale II

Mash at 148F

Cool to 64 F and pitch, let it rise to 70 F.

Joe

jfowler1 said:

You really want to burn through some Cascade?

You can easily sub Victory for the carapils if you want a bit of a biscuit note, and I think this beer can also lend to a higher gravity. I attached the base recipe, but you can tweek it to your liking. Note - a pound of hops is actually going to leave you a couple ounces short for 10 gallons!

Epic Pale Ale - 5 gallon batch

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/can-you-brew-recipe-epic-pale-ale-194085/

OG 1.052
FG 1.011-1.012
IBUs 23.2
SRM 8.3

9.5 lbs Golden Promise 80%
1.2 lbs Baird's Caramalt 10%
6.5 oz Carapils 3.3%
13 oz Fawcett Pale Crystal 6.6%

90 minute boil

0.25 oz Cascade 7.5%AA at 75m
0.50 oz Cascade at 30m
1.25 oz Cascade at 10m
1.50 oz Cascade at 0m
Wait ten minutes
1.50oz Cascade - hot whirlpool for 10 more minutes
2 oz Cascade dry hop dose 1 at ferment temps for 5 days
2 oz Cascade dry hop dose 2 at cold crash temps for 5 days

Wyeast 1272 American Ale II

Mash at 148F

Cool to 64 F and pitch, let it rise to 70 F.

Joe

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Oooh, this looks nice too.

I've brewed the epic pale ale clone before and it was delicious. Extremely hoppy but not too bitter and very complex for a single hopped beer. Good luck.

You could try something like this:

Cascade Brown IPA

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 8.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0


Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.00 lb Pale Malt, Golden Promise (Thomas Fawcett) (3.0 SRM) Grain 40.58 %
4.00 lb Borlander Munich Malt (Briess) (10.0 SRM) Grain 23.19 %
3.00 lb Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 17.39 %
1.00 lb Amber (Crisp) (27.5 SRM) Grain 5.80 %
1.00 lb Caramel Malt - 60L (Briess) (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.80 %
1.00 lb Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 5.80 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM) Grain 1.45 %
4.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 53.9 IBU
4.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (10 min) Hops 25.4 IBU
4.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 14.0 IBU
4.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
2 Packages Danstar Nottingham

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.094 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.024 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.18 %
Bitterness: 93.4 IBU
Est Color: 22.9 SRM


Mash Profile

Double Infusion, Full Body
30 min Protein Rest Add 15.53 qt of water at 132.1 F 122.0 F
30 min Saccrification Add 13.80 qt of water at 206.7 F 158.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 10.35 qt of water at 199.4 F 168.0 F

Brewed this up yday, I can't help but think that it is going to be AMAZING.

12 gallon batch at %80 efficiency
17 pounds two row
2 pound munich
1 pound C40
1 pound C60
½ pound victory
6 oz C120
WLP001
Mash at 154
OG = 1.050
Expected FG = 1.010
.40 oz Columbus at 60 minutes
1# of cascade whole cone hops at 3 minutes.
I did a hot whirlpool for about 5 minutes as well before I activated the chiller.
I cold pitched a two liter WLP001 starter, active fermentation/full krausen in about 12 hours.
Chugging away at 70 degrees.
Appears to be perfectly orange/copper

Considering a chinook or columbus dry hop??

Yep….a pound of hops for finishing. The beer only has about 30 IBU but I bet it’s nice and hoppy!!

Ya, i love the idea of 16oz of hops at 3min. I bet that tastes great.

Update -

Final Gravity = 1.010
Color is deep copper, could easily pass as american amber ale
This grain bill and hop schedule will be my go to for hoppy APA
1.010 leaves just enought sweetness to compliment the huge hop flavor from the Cascade

Tasting -

The munich and three types of crystal blend to leave a nice/rich caramel/malt flavor that adds the perfect compliment to the intense hop flavor and aroma. However, the beer is not overly bitter. Firmly bittered yes, but not even as bitter as something like sierra nevada pale ale. The hop flavor and aroma suprised me. Sure you get the grapefruit, but there is also a spicy dankness to it. Almost like these cascades resemble a fruitier, softer columbus. All in all, when rating my forays into american pale ale, I would give this my highest marks for the style.