I was brewing Victory and Chaos IPA from the Palmer's book. The beer was drinkable, but not as I expected. I did a few mistakes and also choose bad substitutions, so I finished with light malt beer with no body and no hop flavor or bitterness.
After discussion in another thread, I would like to discuss my second attempt with you before brewing.
So, here is the original recipe from the book (transferred to Beersmith):
Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3,0 SRM) Grain 1 90,9 %
8,0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20,0 SRM) Grain 2 4,5 %
8,0 oz Munich Malt (9,0 SRM) Grain 3 4,5 %
1,00 oz Nugget [12,00 %] - Boil 60,0 min Hop 4 39,5 IBUs
2,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 15,0 min Hop 5 16,3 IBUs
1,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 5,0 min Hop 6 3,3 IBUs
1,0 pkg London Ale (White Labs #WLP013) [35,49 ml] Yeast 7 -
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1,057 SG Measured Original Gravity: 0,000 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1,015 SG Measured Final Gravity: 0,000 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5,5 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0,0 %
Bitterness: 59,1 IBUs Calories: 0,0 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6,1 SRM
Grains:
I am getting Cara- instead of Crystal, which should be the same type only with different names.
Hops:
I cannot get Nugget and also I cannot find any of common substitutes in my shop, so I decided to use stronger AAU version of SAAZ, which most of Czech brewers use for IPA, called Premiant.
Yeast:
London is unavailable in my country, so after recommendation, I will try S-04.
So here is my slightly modified version (bold are substitutions):
Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3,0 SRM) Grain 1 90,9 %
8,0 oz Carared (20,0 SRM) Grain 2 4,5 %
8,0 oz Munich Malt (9,0 SRM) Grain 3 4,5 %
1,29 oz Premiant [9,31 %] - Boil 60,0 min Hop 4 39,5 IBUs
2,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 15,0 min Hop 5 16,3 IBUs
1,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 5,0 min Hop 6 3,3 IBUs
1,0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) [23,66 ml] Yeast 7 -
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1,057 SG Measured Original Gravity: 0,000 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1,014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 0,000 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5,7 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0,0 %
Bitterness: 59,1 IBUs Calories: 0,0 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6,1 SRM
Does it sound good? I will also dry hop this time, which means that I will use 1,00 oz EKG instead of last 5 min hop addition (according to the book instructions).
And I would like to do some modifications, so what do you think about these:
1. I don't like the color, I want it darker (amber). I also have CaraAmber from previous brewing, so I can save money . So can I use CaraAmber instead of CaraRed which gives the beer desired color (6,5 SRM) and probably a little bit more body?
- 8,0 oz Caraamber (30,0 SRM) Grain 2 4,5 %
2. I have some Cascade hops and I just purchased some Amarillo hops. Can I use them for more flavor (and how/when), or rather not?
And what about J.Palmer's instructions to skip 5 min hop addition when dry hopping - is ti OK?
Thank you all for your suggestions.
After discussion in another thread, I would like to discuss my second attempt with you before brewing.
So, here is the original recipe from the book (transferred to Beersmith):
Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3,0 SRM) Grain 1 90,9 %
8,0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20,0 SRM) Grain 2 4,5 %
8,0 oz Munich Malt (9,0 SRM) Grain 3 4,5 %
1,00 oz Nugget [12,00 %] - Boil 60,0 min Hop 4 39,5 IBUs
2,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 15,0 min Hop 5 16,3 IBUs
1,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 5,0 min Hop 6 3,3 IBUs
1,0 pkg London Ale (White Labs #WLP013) [35,49 ml] Yeast 7 -
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1,057 SG Measured Original Gravity: 0,000 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1,015 SG Measured Final Gravity: 0,000 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5,5 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0,0 %
Bitterness: 59,1 IBUs Calories: 0,0 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6,1 SRM
Grains:
I am getting Cara- instead of Crystal, which should be the same type only with different names.
Hops:
I cannot get Nugget and also I cannot find any of common substitutes in my shop, so I decided to use stronger AAU version of SAAZ, which most of Czech brewers use for IPA, called Premiant.
Yeast:
London is unavailable in my country, so after recommendation, I will try S-04.
So here is my slightly modified version (bold are substitutions):
Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3,0 SRM) Grain 1 90,9 %
8,0 oz Carared (20,0 SRM) Grain 2 4,5 %
8,0 oz Munich Malt (9,0 SRM) Grain 3 4,5 %
1,29 oz Premiant [9,31 %] - Boil 60,0 min Hop 4 39,5 IBUs
2,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 15,0 min Hop 5 16,3 IBUs
1,00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5,00 %] - Boil 5,0 min Hop 6 3,3 IBUs
1,0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) [23,66 ml] Yeast 7 -
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1,057 SG Measured Original Gravity: 0,000 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1,014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 0,000 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5,7 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0,0 %
Bitterness: 59,1 IBUs Calories: 0,0 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6,1 SRM
Does it sound good? I will also dry hop this time, which means that I will use 1,00 oz EKG instead of last 5 min hop addition (according to the book instructions).
And I would like to do some modifications, so what do you think about these:
1. I don't like the color, I want it darker (amber). I also have CaraAmber from previous brewing, so I can save money . So can I use CaraAmber instead of CaraRed which gives the beer desired color (6,5 SRM) and probably a little bit more body?
- 8,0 oz Caraamber (30,0 SRM) Grain 2 4,5 %
2. I have some Cascade hops and I just purchased some Amarillo hops. Can I use them for more flavor (and how/when), or rather not?
And what about J.Palmer's instructions to skip 5 min hop addition when dry hopping - is ti OK?
Thank you all for your suggestions.