I think I found my new favorite beer (atleast for today) and wanted to know if anyone had a clone recipe they would care to share. I do AG with a RIMS system so I should be able to replicate it with some help.
Thanks
Joe
Thanks
Joe
14.28% of the grist as crystal malts? That's a bit high, and I don't remember drifter being that sweet. I'd say drop the carapils and replace it with an equal amount of the base malt, especally if you're going to mash at 154, as that much crystal and a 154 mash temp would make it underattenuate and you'd be left with a really sweet beer, and not in a good way, imho.
there's a big difference between 10% crystal and a touch over 14% My ESB is 10% crystal as well. If you drop the carapils it drops you at just about 10% crystal, which is perfect IMHO.
And C20 is most certainly a crystal, carapils and caravienne as well.
cara-pils is "crystal" in name only, as it adds little to no caramel color. It's really dextrine malt, and it's in my recipe because Widmer says it's in their beer.
The rest of my recipe is based on my recollection of the color of Drifter. It's been a few months since I had a bottle, but I remember it on the darker side of the range: 8-10 SRM or so. Like I said in the first post, the amounts of crystal could use some adjustment, but that's difficult to do without either a bottle in front of you or some other color info. Unfortunately, Widmer doesn't list SRM like some breweries do.
Short version: it's pointless to try to make a "clone" by discarding brewery-provided ingredient lists.
You [may have a] hard time finding economical Nelson’s hops and I doubt you will find any. Not only are they hard to find in general (they’ve only been around for a few years), virtually the entire crop is contracted out. And, what little is left was quickly grabbed up. They are growing in popularity so in years to come they may become more available.
Summits, on the other hand, are easy to find, and getting easier. It’s becoming a very popular hop for the extract market, as well as craft brewing.
Lastly, yes, Alchemy charge [their bittering hop mixture] on Drifter is small. Nelson and Summit are used late in the brewhouse (in the Whirlpool), and, dry hopped as well - the Nelson and Summits are not added to the boil – only to the whirlpool and the dry hopping. Between the two varieties, Summit and Nelson, there is about 0.5# per barrel total usage.
Brewmaster's Warehouse has both, at least at the moment.You [may have a] hard time finding economical Nelsons hops and I doubt you will find any.
Nelson and Summit are used late in the brewhouse (in the Whirlpool), and, dry hopped as well - the Nelson and Summits are not added to the boil only to the whirlpool and the dry hopping. Between the two varieties, Summit and Nelson, there is about 0.5# per barrel total usage.
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Brewmaster's Warehouse has both, at least at the moment.
That works out to under 1 1/2 ounces total for 5 gallons.
Here's my revised idea at a recipe:
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 85.71 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 4.76 %
8.0 oz Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 4.76 %
4.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 2.38 %
4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 2.38 %
0.50 oz Nelson Sauvin [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 25.9 IBU
0.50 oz Summit [15.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.25 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] (5 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
0.25 oz Summit [15.00 %] (5 min) Hops 2.6 IBU
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 10.50 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 13.13 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 7.35 qt of water at 196.6 F 168.0 F
Since I last posted I am ready to try one of these wonderful recipes you all have helped with....has anyone actually brewed this since we all last posted?
Thanks for the help
Joe
I brewed the last recipe I posted above, and it's pretty close. It needs more body, though. I'm brewing again today, and I think I will add 4 oz each C20 and C80 to the mix. As it is now, the color is too light and the mouthfeel is lacking. The hops flavor and aroma is pretty much spot on, but overbalances the beer slightly because of the lesser body in mine. I'll update when batch #2 is out.
I just had drifter for the first time last night and I can't believe how good it is.
Now the stupid NOOBIE question...What creates the Guava-like flavor in it? The hops? The malts? The Yeast? All of the above? I could have sworn there was some guava juice in that stuff.
The hops. A mix of summit and Nelson sauvin
Any new up dates on any of the Drifter Clones? I LOVE this Beer!! I can only seem to find it in a Mixed Veriety pack there is only 3 in there... I would love to make a 5 gal. batch for the summer, Hell I would even settle for an extract recipe.
Thanks guys
Hey guys, I'm looking to brew a drifter clone pretty soon and I was wondering how your batches turned out. Like discussed before I'm a bit worried about the residual sweetness from all the crystal that goes into this recipe. Any thoughts from your experience?
dwarven_stout said:I've brewed it a few times now, and have had no trouble when mashing low (say 149). I suppose an alternative approach would be to cut the crystal and mash higher to keep some body, but then you'll have issues with color (if that's important to you). Anyway, I've taken my recipe as given above out and about, and it gets rave reviews. It's quite the tasty beer- just don't dry hop it too long!
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