davefleck said:pretty sure they ripped that bear from the grateful dead
Without a doubt. Irony is awesome.
davefleck said:pretty sure they ripped that bear from the grateful dead
pretty sure they ripped that bear from the grateful dead
How did they not know this would happen on yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz/strange-brew-marlborough
Sometimes people forget that consumers have the right to not do business with ********.
Thanks for linking that. I was able to go ahead and flag all the reviews left by people that clearly never did business with the store and are just trying to smear them over a trademark dispute. Clearly these people don't know the first thing about trademark law and that this store is LEGALLY OBLIGATED to defend their trademark. Well, you clearly don't understand the law either nor do most in this thread.
The problem is this guy at the Brew shop already has documented cases where his vendors sent things to the wrong place or otherwise got confused between strange brewing homebrew shop and strange brewing beer manufacturer.
I'd normally agree, but if i was losing customers and having heartaches with my vendors(the life of your average small company) because someone has a name almost identical to yours i'd probably do something about it too.
There's always someone on here defending the *********, and you're that guy in this case.
Face it, the entire way the LHBS has handled this is 100% jackass. NEVER buy from them.
They can easily work out a deal here, and instead are being total jacka$$es. When people want to work together, they can, but it takes two to tango.
The problem is this guy at the Brew shop already has documented cases where his vendors sent things to the wrong place or otherwise got confused between strange brewing homebrew shop and strange brewing beer manufacturer.
I'd normally agree, but if i was losing customers and having heartaches with my vendors(the life of your average small company) because someone has a name almost identical to yours i'd probably do something about it too.
Work out a deal = anything other than being a total jacka$$ demanding a name change.
I can see why you're defending the guy...
Nah, I choose not to feed trolls...
Bovineblitz, how could a little paperwork not be better than all this ill will they are generating?
Although you are "obligated" if you wish to protect other copyrights and trademarks. You can also call them first and discuss.
However, Strange Brewing probably should have used google before setting up their business. Pretty surprised that whatever lawyer was filing their paperwork didn't google it and come to the conclusion that they should not call themselves that.
So, a little more foresight by Strange Brewing or a little more thoughtfulness on the part of Strange Brew (especially considering that his store name is a ripoff of two different things and he also rips off Grateful Dead for his logo) would have gone a long way.
Think I would no longer use his shop if I was in MA.
Exactly. People ****ting on the homebrew shop don't understand how this stuff works. This isn't the same as Coca Cola suing Rock Art over VerMonster.
Grossy said:I know you use to be able to go to a Grateful Dead concert, set up a tri-pod and film them. That may have changed, corporate profits and all.
People aren't saying you can't try to sue someone else for whatever you want, they're just saying it's stupid and you probably shouldn't.
bovineblitz said:I don't think you know what trolling is then.
I'm asking you to back up what you're saying is all. If you're going to be evasive about it, I'll just assume that you can't.
Nope, no reason to feed you, Mr troll.
I don't think people are arguing whether or not it's within his rights to send a C and D letter, and perhaps they are legally obligated to defend their trademark, but from what I've read on the internet, what they're doing is just bad for business.
Here's what it looks like:
1. C and D letter sent to Strange Brewing Company
2. Strange Brewing Company responded looking to reach a middle ground, or even work together instead of both parties spending tons of money on lawyers.
3. Strange Brew responded by saying "no, that's not good enough, change your name or we're suing you". They even called the brewing company a "directly competitive enterprise", which I don't understand, and accuses the brewing company of "hijacking" their trademark.
Apparently they've taken down their facebook page. People aren't saying you can't try to sue someone else for whatever you want, they're just saying it's stupid and you probably shouldn't.
The letter was sent to the brewery, not to the homebrewtalk members, so to go online and trash the lhbs without knowing what kind of business they run is wrong.
wegz15 said:Maybe the brew shop tried calling the brewery and the brewery said ”Sue me”. I could see how they are upset. Having shipments sent to the wrong address can delay supplies and make customers unhappy. The vendors probably have them both on the computer and just clicked on the wrong strange.
I also feel teaming up does not help the brew shop. They don't really have anything to gain. The brewery has more to gain there as they would get royalty from their recipe kits.
bovineblitz said:Lol. Nevermind that I've explained my thoughts and am willing to engage in actual discussion.
Looks like you're the troll.
Pretty funny stuff.
Nope, you're clearly a troll. Congrats!
From everything I've read, first contact from brew shop was first letter in the story.
Completely disagree on the recipe kits. The brew shop has managed to get a total of 24 customers in Colorado in 16 years, showing that they effectively have little to no sales in that state. By having exclusive kits for a Colorado brewery that has won GABF awards, their sales in that state could jump.
There are definitely ways for the homebrew shop to gain customers here, but they've instead chosen to avoid any discussion of options, dismissing them out of hand. Kind of like a few people on this thread.
bovineblitz said:Exclusive recipe kits does not solve the problem of the brewery having an infringing name. What's your solution to that?
Like I said before, I'm not feeding a troll. There's only a problem with the name if they're unwilling to work out a deal. You refuse to acknowledge any possibility of a deal, regardless of its merits. T-R-O-L-L
FuzzeWuzze said:Its unfortunate the guy who owns the trademark is such an ass, but he legally has the right to be.
Not disagreeing with the legalitie although the specific wording of the trademark would ultimately determine whether or not there's an infringement.
My point is that the homebrew shop has an opportunity to handle this differently, and would financially benefit from it. The way he's handling it now is costing him business, as homebrewers everywhere slam him for being a *********.
Except of course for the troll that refuses to acknowledge any other course of action as being an option. Maybe he's the owner...
No point feeding you even further. You seemingly are incapable of putting two and two together, even though you seem to make wild assumptions and knee jerk reactions in defense of the homebrew supplier.
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