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Yes I noticed the same when I used this yeast. I did my own testing with the same recipe with different kinds of yeast. s-04 tasted beer like to me.

I too find that fermenting brown sugar or molassass seems to make the cider bitter. I think however I have found a good recipe to make a clone of Spire Dark & Dry. Here is what I did. 5 gallons Walmart apple juice 5 cups white sugar SG was about 1.060 Added Red Star Pasteur...

I use Great Value all the time from Walmart, I have never noticed any off flavours.

+1 on that yeast can give it a sulfury smell. I use White Labs cider yeast on ocassion and white labs even lets you know that their will be a sulfury smell but that it will disipate within 2-3 weeks. Mcduff

Kevin, Welcome to the PNW, I can think of a couple. Lake Chelan Winery www.lakechelanwinery.com 3519 SR 150 Chelan, WA 98816 (509) 687-9463 & Fish Brewing Company www.fishbrewing.com 515 Jefferson Street Southeast Olympia, WA 98501-1467 (360) 943-6480 This one makes the brand...

These sound like great ideas. I would however not add any cordials to the cider while it is fermenting as that would also add alcohol which will hasten the yeasts death. Unless you want that of course. Let us know how this works for you. Cheers, Mcduff

Thanks for the reply. I had read somewhere that another old fashioned way to make cider was to simply cut the apples up, place into a barrel and cover with water. Let the natural yeast do its thing and the result is supposed to be a light hard cider. I havn't tried it myself but it sounded...

I for one would love to hear more about the "very old fashioned dangerous way" to make cider. Could you elaborate? Thanks

boiling the juice is a bad idea. (or so I have heard). Some people say it gives the cider a cooked juice taste, also it will set the pectins and make it difficult to clear.

I use WL cider yeast all the time. I cold crash and place it back into the carboy and let it sit out at room temp for at least two to three weeks and the sulphur smell will disipate. Wyeast cider yeast is pretty good as well. I have never noticed a sulpher smell for that one.

The only thing I can think of would be bad yeast.

I have done this and not noticed any off flavours, but yeast washing may be better. I plan on trying yeast washing on my next batch but the threads say you should only go about 4 generations and then you should buy new yeast. Mcduff

ok, stupid question on my part..... but I gotta ask, did you remember to add the sugar?

+1 Mcduff

What kind of price are they selling the honey at? I am just 90 miles north of portland. TIA Mcduff

I like using WLP775 English Cider Yeast. http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/strains_wlp775.html Mcduff

Well, I use the cold crash method. There is a lot of good tips on this site but my favorite is at this thread. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f32/results-juice-yeast-sugar-experiments-83060/ CvilleKevin has some really great experiments going on. a simple recipe I am fond of is; 1 gallon...

+1 lets hear the recipe and process and we may be able to help you better. I follow a process that gives me a good tasting cider in 4 weeks, but in 4 months it is awsome! Mcduff Oops, I missed all of page 2 when I sent the above. never mind. Just out of curiosity, are you using the...

Yes, don't sell! Give it a little time. I don't brew beer myself as I like cider and brewing seems a bit complicated to me. As was said in an earlier post you may just be missing a small step. Not trying to divert you from beer but why not try making a cider. Its really a very simple process but...

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