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  1. M

    Ice cider without the work

    I found out by accident that 4184 fermenting at temperatures less than 60F produced some great stone fruit flavors: apricot, peach, and even a touch of banana. Trust me the banana flavor is so very light, but so wow what is that. I ferment my ice cider using the staggered addition method to...
  2. M

    Ice cider without the work

    4184 Sweet Mead Yeast is my favorite/only Cider yeast. It ages in the dark in 12 oz glass bottles with standard caps. I use the 3 acid blend as the 4184 isn't a "malic acid converter" strain of yeast. And for all the "Curious Ice Cider fans that just want to know...", my Ice Cider falls right...
  3. M

    Ice cider without the work

    Wow, it is great to read about all the Ice Cider interests here! I have a two-year old batch of ice cider waiting for me in the back of a dark closet. There is a local contest coming up in April of this year, and the judges are seasoned BJCP judges. I may be the only Ice Cider entrant, but I am...
  4. M

    Ice cider without the work

    I really don't know why but even with that much residual sugar the I/C is not cloyingly sweet; there is a lot of balanced acid and a just silky mouth feel that I can not accurately describe. Just like my applejack as time passes there is less up front sweetness and less up front alcohol...
  5. M

    Ice cider without the work

    Nope, 4184 ferments quite happily at that temperature.
  6. M

    Ice cider without the work

    I don't have the numbers in front of me this minute, but whatever the BJCP standard is for Ice Cider I hit the numbers they require. IIRC, I bottled my I/C at 1.068 which is quite a bit of residual sugar; a year of bottle aging later, my I/C is just amazing; there is no oxidation or anything...
  7. M

    problem from aging in plastic?

    The Spanish drink a Sidre that is on the edge of being a vinegar, and they pour it through the air from the carafe to each individual cup. This process takes a lot of the vinegar "edge" off as it aerates while falling at least two feet during the pouring and the splashing into the cup.
  8. M

    problem from aging in plastic?

    I have reused the plastic jugs the juice originally came in and have had no ill effects
  9. M

    apple jack

    My only experience is with glass 12 ounce bottles; I have put hard cider in plastic bottles and did not notice any issues.
  10. M

    apple jack

    Hey Lemonade, I take no offense to your asking me because you are new; if I am sure about the attic storage? Do your own research and then get back to me, will you?
  11. M

    apple jack

    Following the information I read early on I did not add activated charcoal, but I did add some white sugar. At about six months in age the a/j had what I thought was a port/sherry flavor to it; it wasn't "bad" in any way but I was concerned at a later date if the port/sherry flavor would still...
  12. M

    apple jack

    Two years is the longest any of my a/j has survived. New and 9 months: major difference, 16 to 18 months, different from 9 months, and 24 months there is even greater difference. I did a lot of study on the origins and processes used 100 years ago or more and here is the short version: the old...
  13. M

    apple jack

    The longer it ages the better tasting and smoother it becomes. I just opened a 2 year old bottle a few days ago and was just blown away how smooth and flavorful it was/is.
  14. M

    DIY Interwoven "Rib-Cage" Immersion Chiller

    I had the tipping over problem too... I used a length of cord to tie the chiller to the pot, and.....no more problem.
  15. M

    DIY Interwoven "Rib-Cage" Immersion Chiller

    I am not sure if anal-retentive should be hyphenated or not, but here is my two cents: Nokt, have you noticed any issues with bubbles at a slow circulating volume? I feed my cold water into the bottom of the coils;yours looks like the cold water is going in the top. Somewhere in this thread is...
  16. M

    apple jack

    No worries, mate. I usually add 1 ounce of FAJC to 11 ounces of applejack and have had no re-ferment issues at all. For what it is worth, I add 3 ounces of FAJC to the first 9 ounces of melted ice water and have had no re-ferment issues there either due to the residual alcohol in the ice.
  17. M

    Port style cider?

    Alan, the way that Angry Orchard and Smith and Forge make hard cider is sketchy at best; the A-O commercials show "two whole apples" in every bottle of cider. Two apples is generally around four ounces of juice, so the rest is water, sugars and flavoring: not really a high quality juice product...
  18. M

    Storing applejack ?

    I have some that has 18 months of age on it, and it is amazing; everyone that has tasted it has been highly complimentary and most wonder if there is any for sale.
  19. M

    Storing applejack ?

    For at least the first 6oz per jug, the a/j is liquid at -10*F so I know I am in excess of 40% ABV. Past that I don't know as every batch is different even with the same ingredients and temperatures.
  20. M

    experiences of novice cider-maker in islamic country (minimum tools)

    I am stumped...what kind of plant/tree is in the above picture?
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