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Old 12-13-2012, 03:50 PM   #2591
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I used the recipe exactly as listed on the first page.
I chilled the wort with a plate chiller.

I do not have a cold or allergies.. it's very weird because when I first opened the beer, the aroma and flavor was great.
The only thing that comes to mind other than high storage temps is your water supply maybe tainted it?
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:00 PM   #2592
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Doing this tonight as my first BIAB batch, a partial volume boil. Using a little more hops (1oz at 30m instead of .5) to compensate for the smaller boil, but otherwise, right on with the recipe, EXCEPT... I accidentally bought 20L instead of 10L.

Worth making a trip across town, or just go with the 20L? Guessing the 20 will be fine, obviously a little bit darker, The malt comparison charts I've found have no discernable difference, other than color. It darkened it from 5SRM to 6SRM, when I put it into beersmith. Other than that, not much change in the numbers...

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Old 12-13-2012, 04:48 PM   #2593
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The only thing that comes to mind other than high storage temps is your water supply maybe tainted it?
I kept it in the basement the whole time - about 65 the warmest it get all year.

I filter the water before I use it in brewing but how could water supply taint it?
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:09 PM   #2594
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There could be tons of factors, the weird thing is that it tasted good going into the bottles. The only things that really make it worse over time AFAIK are things like oxidation, infections, etc. The rest would be bad going in. 4 months is a long time to wait to drink a pale ale, but it shouldn't taste like nothing.

The water might have had chlorine or chloramine in it, but I'm not familiar with how that affects things. Most people seem to think it adds a nasty medicinal flavor.

The only batch I've ever had like you're describing was an IPA made from an all-grain kit. The kit had sat on my shelf with crushed grains and room temp hops for about 3 months, and who knows how long in the store. I finally made it and the beer... Tasted like absolutely, positively nothing whatsoever. Carbonated nothingness.

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There could be tons of factors, the weird thing is that it tasted good going into the bottles. The only things that really make it worse over time AFAIK are things like oxidation, infections, etc. The rest would be bad going in. 4 months is a long time to wait to drink a pale ale, but it shouldn't taste like nothing.

The water might have had chlorine or chloramine in it, but I'm not familiar with how that affects things. Most people seem to think it adds a nasty medicinal flavor.

The only batch I've ever had like you're describing was an IPA made from an all-grain kit. The kit had sat on my shelf with crushed grains and room temp hops for about 3 months, and who knows how long in the store. I finally made it and the beer... Tasted like absolutely, positively nothing whatsoever. Carbonated nothingness.
Well, there are only two bottles left (we drank most of it at the party three weeks after bottling) - but just got me wondering...
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:09 AM   #2596
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Just got done with my first AG mash, starting the boil as soon as the water warms up.

I don't think I had a big enough pot, so my efficiency is awful. Waiting for my sample to cool, but probably below 60%... What would be the best way to repair it? I don't have DME on hand, but can run and get some if table sugar is goign to futz it up.

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I'd say DME or just lower your final volume down so the SG is close to the target. Table sugar wont produce the same result at all.

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Just got done with my first AG mash, starting the boil as soon as the water warms up.

I don't think I had a big enough pot, so my efficiency is awful. Waiting for my sample to cool, but probably below 60%... What would be the best way to repair it? I don't have DME on hand, but can run and get some if table sugar is goign to futz it up.
find your preboil quantity and gravity. then go here and enter values.
http://www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/
Fiddle with the batch size to scale the boil down quantity to 1.051 og.

At 60% 4.5 gallons is about right.
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Ended up adding DME until I got to 1.051, still hit my 5 gallon final volume. that'll be my last venture into all grain in a small apartment kitchen. partial mash all day, but i don't have room for any sort of efficient brewing at that volume. Bah.

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My efficiency is off for some reason. I'd like to blame the milling. The first couple of times I brewed all grain I was over 80%. Now that I get my stuff from BMW, it is lower. May be a connection there. I eeked a 1.049 out of this one.

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