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Old 07-20-2013, 03:40 PM   #1
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I never had this problem until 6 weeks ago and I've never *not* had it since. My #6 rubber stopper simply refuses to stay in my one gallon carboy. It pops out within 30 seconds to one minute. The last time I managed to jam it way down into the neck but when it came time to bottle I wasn't able to get it out without breaking off the neck of the carboy. (And actually not even then; it was still jammed in tight despite fractures and broken glass throughout my beer.)

I figure it's the star-san solution that I sanitize it with is simply too slippery so I'm air drying it an I'm going to put it in completely covered with airborn bacteria.

So how do *you* guys deal with this.

Hmm, I suppose I can pour boiling water over it. That'd be less slippery than star-san.



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Old 07-20-2013, 03:50 PM   #2
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Definitely the star-san. Don't know why it didn't occur to was boiling water until today though.

Sorry. Just needed to vent. I *hate* stupid little set backs like this. Almost comical to watch a star-san slick stopper pop out of a carboy like a greased ping-pong ball.



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I encountered this exact issue, asked on the forum and got 2 basic answers:

1) Use a blowoff setup

2) Wipe the stopper down with a dry paper towel, taking care not to leave any paper fibers stuck that could fall into the wort.

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Old 07-20-2013, 05:23 PM   #4
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I just leave it in there best I can get it then push it in once its dry enough. Usually a couple hours.

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I almost forgot option #3: Duct tape

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I encountered this exact issue, asked on the forum and got 2 basic answers:

1) Use a blowoff setup
The stopper is an essential part of my blowoff setup
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2) Wipe the stopper down with a dry paper towel, taking care not to leave any paper fibers stuck that could fall into the wort.
I thought of that but I figured that couldn't possibly be sanitary.

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I just leave it in there best I can get it then push it in once its dry enough. Usually a couple hours.
I was having trouble with the blowoff tube being top-heavy. Didn't occur to me to just let the top sit on top of the carboy with nothing/a lighter weight airlock/covered at first for an hour or two.

Still, boiling water seems to be a good solution for now. Boiling water is not slippery. I didn't seem to have this problem with iodophor so... even less with boiling water.

Anyway it's *really* nice to know I'm not alone with this problem. Never heard anyone with it and I was kind of assuming it'd be the type of problem people would be inclide to not believe I was having or not consider serious. (Although it *is* serious; my carboy won't close!)

Boiling water though. Works great.
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I just string a zip tie across the top with a carboy handle and tightener down! That's what I did anyway, before I started using a big blowoff tube.

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The stopper is an essential part of my blowoff setup

I thought of that but I figured that couldn't possibly be sanitary.


Anyway it's *really* nice to know I'm not alone with this problem. Never heard anyone with it and I was kind of assuming it'd be the type of problem people would be inclide to not believe I was having or not consider serious. (Although it *is* serious; my carboy won't close!)
Understood about the stopper being integral.
My blowoff consists of a 3' piece of 1"OD vinyl tubing which fits snugly into the mouth of a carboy and does not slip out.

It is not really as un-sanitary as you might think. But an alternative is to slightly dampen the paper towel with starsan and then wipe until the rubber is dry and will stay in the carboy.

When it happened to me, I was frustrated and also thought it was something I was doing wrong.
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Grab a clean paper towel, and dry the inside of the carboy and dry off the bung and put it in there. It's fine.

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I'd get some new stoppers, blowoff tubes, and/or go to better bottles with the caps that stretch over the top, not in the top. And yes the bung needs to be dry. If the yeast is pushing it out you need more head space in the carboy, AKA a bigger carboy or bucket.



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