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Old 06-30-2010, 01:54 AM   #1
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Default Really annoyed... First batch has had 2 gushers and a bad finish

WTF!?!?! Did I get an infection? I've drank maybe a 12 pack so far and have already had 2 gushers. I also posted another thread this past weekend stating how the finish has a really bitter mineral taste. I was so careful about being sanitary I really don't know what could have went wrong. IS that even what the problem is you think? If it is, the only time I could think something might have gone bad is when I made my starter perhaps...? I did the intermittent shaking method where I shook it up every couple hours. Did that oxidize it? I started my second batch on Saturday and don't want this one to come out crappy. I am so annoyed and really want to know where I went wrong....

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Old 06-30-2010, 02:03 AM   #2
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Brewing is a learning process. It is hard to say if sanitation is your problem without knowing your whole recipe and process, but other than sanitation, another area that can cause gushers is not completely stirring in all your priming sugar. This can cause some bottles to have more sugar than others and carbonate up much more.

If your carbonation was really high in those bottles be careful of bottle bombs. Bottles can explode if the pressure gets to high in them.

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You had 2 beers out of 12 come out bad?

Gusher infections are a sanitation or wild yeast problem... If you said you were careful about sanitation, then wild yeast would be my guess.

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Brewing is a learning process. It is hard to say if sanitation is your problem without knowing your whole recipe and process, but other than sanitation, another area that can cause gushers is not completely stirring in all your priming sugar. This can cause some bottles to have more sugar than others and carbonate up much more.

If your carbonation was really high in those bottles be careful of bottle bombs. Bottles can explode if the pressure gets to high in them.
+1. I almost forgot... you may not have an infection at all, maybe just didn't prime evenly and that's why you are seeing some beers more carbed up than others...
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2 out of 12 so far, but there is also a off flavor in the finish that is really bothering me. Are you saying that those 2 beers were affected by wild yeast and the whole batch is not infected? Keep in mind this was my first batch ever so I am still figuring everything out as best as I can.

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I swirled my yeast starter before getting my stir plate, never shook, don't see that as a problem IMO. You have to keep sanitized foil over top, the yeast needs to grab oxygen but you don't want any wild yeast falling in.

2 gushers meaning bottles were close to exploding, or they oozed out after opening?

What type of brew did you do on the first one? Please be specific on ingredients.

Did you boil in an Aluminum pot?

All these questions will help the fine Home Brewers here (me not being one, I do try though).

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Can you explain your brewing and sanitation processes?

What is your water source?

Did/do you see a ring in the neck of any of the bottles?

How warm did you condition the bottles?

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I have been doing everything verbatim according to Palmer. My priming sugar was laid at the bottom of my bottling bucket(gently, without oxidizing it) and I siphoned it in gently(no oxidizing) and let it naturally mix itself up. The gushers are not exactly what I am so annoyed about. Someone this weekend told me the gushers were probably caused by infection. Say they weren't, then why is this bitter mineral after taste in the finish?

I know it is hard to help with out knowing my process, but like I said before, everything I did was done by the book as best as I could. I kept the fermenting temps down for a week or so but then let them stay at room temp(maybe around 74ish) for the rest of the time. I am thinking maybe the fermentation was not done when I stopped cooling it perhaps....?

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2 out of 12 so far, but there is also a off flavor in the finish that is really bothering me. Are you saying that those 2 beers were affected by wild yeast and the whole batch is not infected? Keep in mind this was my first batch ever so I am still figuring everything out as best as I can.
If only the two tasted bad, the 2 bottles might not have been clean.

If all bottles tasted bad then using an aluminum pot or anything from starter to old yeast might be the problem. They could become bottle bombs!
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If you only had two gushers, and they were the only ones that had the off flavor, than that would point to sanitation of the bottles themselves. Again I am guessing without complete info on the process. It can be tricky properly cleaning re-used bottles. They quickly grow things in them if the old beer is allowed to sit in them after consumption.

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