Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Do sanitizers kill bacteria? If so, then not good for my septic system
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-24-2013, 03:39 AM   #1
billpaustin
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 286
Liked 11 Times on 10 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default Do sanitizers kill bacteria? If so, then not good for my septic system

I am running on a 100% rainwater and local septic system. I need the good bacteria in the septic system; does sanitizer kill them? Let's say I mix up a couple gallons, and then run it down my drain, does it kill the bacteria?

__________________

This is fun :)

billpaustin is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 03:57 AM   #2
Tombstone0
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Finksburg, Md
Posts: 181
Liked 12 Times on 10 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by billpaustin
I am running on a 100% rainwater and local septic system. I need the good bacteria in the septic system; does sanitizer kill them? Let's say I mix up a couple gallons, and then run it down my drain, does it kill the bacteria?
Of course they do that's the whole point, but it all depends on concentration. Starsan for instance is an acid, it kills bacteria because of its very low ph. Once it's been diluted, like when it's dumped into a septic tank, the ph is no longer low and it no longer will kill bacteria.
__________________
Tombstone0 is offline
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 04:00 AM   #3
JimRausch
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ellsworth, Maine
Posts: 1,007
Liked 125 Times on 110 Posts
Likes Given: 148

Default

The dilution factor should make whatever you're flushing ineffective as a sanitizer(ie. you won't kill any of the good bugs). And if you're using Starsan, the breakdown products might even be beneficial.

__________________
JimRausch is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 05:10 AM   #4
Beernik
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: salt lake city, ut
Posts: 3,219
Liked 379 Times on 295 Posts
Likes Given: 25

Default

Your tank is probably over 500 gallons. They are usually 1000 gallons minimum plus the drain field.

Dumping a yeast slurry is probably a bigger problem than a 5/1000 dilution of sanitizer. A yeast cake is a lot of nutrients for the septic tank bacteria to chew through. But even then, if you aren't already overloading the tank, it shouldn't be an issue.

__________________
People tell me that if they lived near a beach they would run on the beach every day.

If I lived near a beach, I'd drink beer and look at the beach every day.
Beernik is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 03:22 PM   #5
unionrdr
Wannabe author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 31,174
Liked 2305 Times on 2006 Posts
Likes Given: 1717

Default

I always thought the yeast would help eat through all that stuff as well.

__________________
Everything works if ya let it-Roady(meatloaf)
NEW, REVISED EDITION of book one of Time Lords 2034 series now on Amazon Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
My homebrewing book "Tippy Tippy Tappy" on Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
unionrdr is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 03:46 PM   #6
Beernik
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: salt lake city, ut
Posts: 3,219
Liked 379 Times on 295 Posts
Likes Given: 25

Default

Conventional septic systems use anaerobic digestion to clean waste.

There are species of yeast that are aerobic and facultative (partial aerobic - partial anaerobic) but none that are fully anaerobic. Once they use up all the available molecular oxygen, they stop working.

Hence the need to aerate the wort after the boil and stuck fermentations that result from insufficient aeration.

__________________
People tell me that if they lived near a beach they would run on the beach every day.

If I lived near a beach, I'd drink beer and look at the beach every day.
Beernik is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 03:52 PM   #7
LovesIPA
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 1,518
Liked 201 Times on 152 Posts
Likes Given: 140

Default

Yeast are good for a septic system.

Sanitizer won't hurt a septic system.

__________________
LovesIPA is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 04:00 PM   #8
DPBISME
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 993
Liked 69 Times on 56 Posts
Likes Given: 76

Default

...and if you really are concerned let id sit for a while... it's ability to sanitize degrades over time and exposer to (I guess) oxygen....

__________________
DPBISME is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 04:09 PM   #9
unionrdr
Wannabe author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 31,174
Liked 2305 Times on 2006 Posts
Likes Given: 1717

Default

I remember the city coming around after my nosey neighbor called someone saying "yeah,it looks like a meth lab or something". I explained to them what the stuff was they found in the caker near the corner of my front yard where the storm drain is. So yeast def helps,& as long as the Starsan & PBW were properly mixed,it's ok so far as sewers are concerned from what they told me.

__________________
Everything works if ya let it-Roady(meatloaf)
NEW, REVISED EDITION of book one of Time Lords 2034 series now on Amazon Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
My homebrewing book "Tippy Tippy Tappy" on Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
unionrdr is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-24-2013, 04:57 PM   #10
VCTFernandes
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 62
Liked 4 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by unionrdr View Post
I remember the city coming around after my nosey neighbor called someone saying "yeah,it looks like a meth lab or something". I explained to them what the stuff was they found in the caker near the corner of my front yard where the storm drain is. So yeast def helps,& as long as the Starsan & PBW were properly mixed,it's ok so far as sewers are concerned from what they told me.
Do you ever share your homebrew with that pleasant person? I wouldn't
__________________
VCTFernandes is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Star-San and Septic system TJ-Bill Equipment/Sanitation 9 12-14-2011 04:30 PM
Septic safe cleaners/ sanitizers PGAmd95 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 2 06-19-2011 11:37 PM
Poll, who will kill more bacteria! optimatored Equipment/Sanitation 49 04-30-2010 07:34 PM
lees in a septic system Slipgate Wine Making Forum 6 02-16-2010 12:37 AM
Trub and a septic system Slipgate General Beer Discussion 5 02-14-2010 12:03 AM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS