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Old 11-16-2012, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default 2nd Brew, Pale ale advice!

Here is my second brew citizens
This is far more important that the last, because I haven't paid for a dime, 50-60 people will be tasting it and I'm 'expected' to make this generic pale ale clone excellent.
I welcome all your criticisms

5.5gal Batch
2.3gal boil volume - 60 mins
IBU - 20-22 (my last hit 26, too bitter, probably because I didn't wait for hot break)

3.9-4.2%

6lb light DME

12oz crystal 20L
10oz carapils

1 oz fuggles @60min
2 oz goldings @ 60 min
0.8 fuggles @ 5 min


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Old 11-17-2012, 12:27 AM   #2
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Well, you are gutsy I'll give you that much seeing how this is your second batch and all. But the recipe doesn't look too hard, so I'm sure you'll be fine. A couple of things though...

First, you said that your last beer was 'too bitter' at 20-22 IBU, but the problem is 22 IBUs isn't bitter at all. In fact, 30 IBU is the lowest that an American Pale Ale is allowed to be before it is no longer considered a pale ale.

Second, 1 oz of Fuggles @ 60 mins and 2 oz of Goldings @ 60 mins will get you 56 IBUs alone.
Add .8 of Fuggles @ 5 mins and you'll get 60 IBUs in total which, needless to say, is a hoppy enough beer.

Just making sure you know what you're getting into.

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Old 11-17-2012, 12:29 AM   #3
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And those aren't american pale ale hops. Is this a published clone, or are you trying to clone a beer yourself?

Edit: OP didn't say am. Pale ale...questions still stand though!

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Old 11-17-2012, 03:51 PM   #4
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This is a loosely based clone with slightly differing ingredients, mainly because of their availability.

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And yes, this is an english pale ale! hopefully and you probably didn't read it right, my last IBU count was 25ish, the predicted IBUs according to brewersfriend for this batch was in the early twenties.

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What's the AA% of the hops?? You could try using them all late in the boil to get lower IBUs and more flavor from them. What yeast will you be using?? That will also impact the brew and how it comes out. I would suggest downloading the free trial of BeerSmith and enter the recipe in there and see what it gives you. You can then tweak it to get what you want. Its what I do for my batches. Typically figuring out the recipe at least a week or two before brew day.

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according to my brew shop

fuggles - 3.5%-6.5%
goldings 4-8%

2011 harvest.

And most likely Windsor, again, I am quite limited on ingredients unfortunately.

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according to my brew shop

fuggles - 3.5%-6.5%
goldings 4-8%

2011 harvest.

And most likely Windsor, again, I am quite limited on ingredients unfortunately.
Need specific AA% on the hops you'll be getting. What they told you is the typical range, which is nigh on useless when formulating a recipe.
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Yeah, 3oz for 60 min will be quite bitter. If you move some hops to later in the boil you can reduce the bitterness and get more fuggles/Golding flavor.

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Second everything. Use an ounce for bittering and then drop the rest down for flavor or aroma additions with 15-0 minutes remaining in the boil.

If this is your second beer and want it to be excellent for everyone temp control on fermentation and correct amount of yeast is what's going to be key. Definitely temp control, make sure to get it down to 60* below pitching yeast.

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