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Old 07-08-2008, 12:19 AM   #11
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Pecan Scottish 80


Uncapping / Pouring / Aesthetics: Standard hiss, plenty of carbo with a quickly fading head, and a dirty rusty brown color.

Aroma: Slightly acidic-smelling, with a faint bit of nuttiness and plenty of roasty qualities. There's nothing here that stands out on the nose, everything just runs together. It's not unpleasant, but it doesn't give me much to go on, like a painting that's been rained on.

Palate: At first, I thought it was off. There's acidity from the nuts, I suppose, but it reminded me of a few of my infected beers. There's a nuttyness and a definite abrasive mouthfeel from the sharp carbonation. But as it warmed up, a nice malty sweetness evolved to balance out the acidity, and it got much more belgian...it started to remind me of those belgian brownish-red ales from little joints like De Dolle, after aging in my cellar for 3 years. The nuts, I think, add some oxidative qualities, like an aged Belgian. By the end, it was great!

Proximity to the Style: No way, dude, no freakin' way, not even close

Overall Impression: I wasn't sure what to think of this beer at first, but once I envisioned it as an old bottle of DeDolle (which I think might be a little infected), I loved it. Weird that way. I enjoyed the bottle, I didn't get bowled over by pecan flavors, and was pleasantly surprised at the end. I wouldn't brew this batch again, if I were you, though, because I'm thinking it might be a fluke, and in terms of scottish 80 shillings style, it's definitely flawed.


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Old 07-08-2008, 12:27 AM   #12
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Uncapping / Pouring / Aesthetics: Off-white head, 2 fingers high, tight bubble matrix, lasting head retention. Color is dark brown to black with slightly reddish brown edges.

Aroma: Tons of roast, toast, and chocolate. No hop aroma. A slight subtle coffee thing. Over top of everything, though, there's an oxidized quality to it. If I didn't know better I'd swear this was a couple years old. I've had a case of really old Brimstone Big Ale that I got for free when I worked at a wine/beer shop (8+ years old), and it's super oxidized...this has many of those notes, like sherry and figs.

Palate: I get a touch of the oxidation here, but not nearly as strong as on the nose. There's lactose/cream, chocolate, roast, and peanut butter (?). No hop flavor, but I love the depth of the palate. I swirled it in my mouth and it just coats everything and gives me a lot to think about. Just enough bitterness from the style to catch the sides of my tongue, too. Nice. Odd, though, that the tasting notes on your stat sheet said "very heavy". The first thing that I got from this beer when I tasted it was a cleanness and light mouthfeel. Not bad things, mind you, but the last thing I was thinking was "heavy". I wonder if it's dried out in bottle?

Proximity to the Style: The oxidation on the nose is off, but the rest of it is great. Very clean, crisp, roasty, chocolatey, even creamy.

Overall Impression: I'm a fan. The oxidation on the nose is certainly a flaw, but luckily it doesn't follow through to the palate, and I love tasting this beer more than smelling it. Very enjoyable overall.


SCORE: 38/50
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:20 PM   #13
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1) The AIPA is still bad. I pulled one out of the closet the other night (there was riff-raff downstairs, blocking the way to my kegerator, and I wanted my solitude dammit!) .... At room temp, it was almost undrinkable. I can't describe it, it's not medicinal, in fact it's almost like out-of-control fusel and solvent tastes. Evan, I like where you're going with Pithiness... but I'd even say it tastes like the kind of pithy bitter that goes all the way down the back of your throat, into your gut. My stomach hurt a bit after drinking this, in fact. You're right though, that puppy is one clear beer! If only I could consistently get my reg'lar beers that clear!

JC, I'm probably gonna use you as a guinea pig to figure out these off flavors, heads up! (Seriously I'm bringing some to the next meeting.) So thanks for being good sports and trying it anyways, and I'm sorry that it's such a piece of crap. On the bright side, I can taste all 3 of the hops I put into it. I'm thinking the spoiled Simcoe may have been part of it. I really need to determine whether that Simcoe is usable, or ruined, and if it's ruined, I need to sell it off to someone who needs debittered hops.

2) I shipped 2 more packages to BierMuncher and DeathBrewer.
Each contained:
2 - 888 RIS Clearly marked cap
1 - Dryhop Honey Wheat - marked cap DHW, recipe is in my drop-down. Used Galena and Cascade in the boil and Saaz for the dry hopping. One of my favorite brews I've produced. Brewed December 07, kegged in January 08, and BMBFed in March 08.

Thanks in advance for your reviews of my 888 and my other brews!

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Old 08-05-2008, 06:22 PM   #14
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...I shipped 2 more packages to BierMuncher and DeathBrewer.
Each contained:
2 - 888 RIS Clearly marked cap
1 - Dryhop Honey Wheat - marked cap DHW,...
Thanks for the bonus beers. They're chilling nicely as we speak.

I think I'll give that DHW a sampling tonight if I can find 30 minutes of peace and quiet.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:34 AM   #15
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As promised...Dry Hopped Honey Wheat

Appearance - Moderate to dark amber color. Fair clarity. Good 1/2 inch head of light beige. Head appears to lace nicely.

Aroma - Not a lot jumps out. There is some maltiness initially but not a powerful whoosh of hops you might exoect from a dry hopped ale. The smell is nice. I don't know the ABV, but it has a nice sippable alcohol aroma.

Flavor - Nice strong maltiness and an immediate bitterness to balance. This has almost a belgian zing to it. Bottle conditioned I believe. Smooth down the palate and no lingering bitterness. Again, the late/dry hop isn't obvious...but were it missing, maybe then I'd notice that it was missing. Overall very flavorful and tasty. This is a rich enough flavor that it is a sipper.

Mouthfeel - Good. Good carbonation. On the high side which is good for this style. Again...something about this beer reminded me of a Belgian Strong. There was a definite alcohol warming on about the third sip . I likey.

Overall - Very nice beer. Though the dry hop didn't come through, this is a solid wheat beer with a nice malt tone and plenty of wheat beer characteristics.

Nicely done.

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:31 PM   #16
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I did a side-by-side tasting, so I'm going to do an intentional double-post in both Chriso's and Evan!'s threads.

First impressions:
All – dark, nearly jet black color with deep tan head. Ruby highlights when held to the light. Poured at 52°F and warmed about 10° before the end of the tasting.

Chriso:
Medium head, somewhat large bubbles, diminished quickly. Little to no lacing.

Nice aroma – sweet chocolate background with roasted malt most prevalent.

Pleasant chocolate and roastiness up front. Not as complex as the others – the flavor remains fairly constant across the tongue until the finish. Acrid tannin flavor at the end.

Nice, creamy mouthfeel. Well carbonated.

Evan!:
Lots of head, very persistent. Great lacing.

Very rich aroma. Lots of sweet chocolate, vanilla, and coffee. Most inviting of the three.

Sweet vanilla, chocolate, and toffee up front, then toasted nuts. Not as roasty as the others. Balanced bitterness. Hints of raisin after a few sips.

Very creamy, carbonated perfectly. Velvet.

Yuri:
Slightly darker than the others, making it VERY black. Medium head, very fine and dense bubbles, diminished quickly. Slight lacing.

Aroma much like Chriso's, but with dark raisin/plum notes added.

Nice chocolate and roasted coffee up front. Raisin and molasses as it washes back. Assertive bitterness at the finish.

Smooth and creamy. A bit undercarbonated.

Final impressions:
Evan!'s was the sweetest and easiest to drink (either the highest FG or the best water profile management). SWMBO really liked the dark fruit notes in mine. The acrid bitterness in the finish of Chriso's made it a bit rough overall, though it was still a pretty good beer. Chriso and Evan!, the 888's were easily the best of the beers you sent.

All – quite similar beers, but subtle variations made for rather different experiences with each. All of the beers hid the high ABV quite well – no alcohol aroma or burn. The recipe is a sure winner, though I'll probably cut the bittering hops slightly if (when) I brew it again. I really enjoyed this tasting session. Easily an award winning RIS, IMHO!



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ok, i actually tasted this on 08/08/08 and took notes, but have been too busy to post. i have 15 minutes to kill before i leave work and i happened to have the notes in my pocket!! sorry for the late response. You should know, i'm not judge but here goes:

RIS 08/08/08 (brewed 01/13/08)

Aroma: Pleasant chocolately nose, roasty
Appearance: Nice Thick Foamy brown head. Leaves nice lacing as head dissapates.
Flavor: Rich, Roasty...somewhat bland aftertaste. Nice chocolate as it warms. A little too bitter (possible astringency but probably just hops)
Mouthfeel: Creamy, maybe slightly low on carbonation
Overall: Very good RIS. Bitterness from hops(grains?) could be improved.

I've only had one bottle. Can't wait to try it again.

DHW (brewed 3/30/08)

I figured this was an american wheat, but wasn't sure when i reviewed it

Aroma: Nice, balanced hop/malt aroma. Slight floral aroma
Appearance: Nice lacy head, beautiful bronze color, a little hazy
Flavor: Fantastic balance. On the hoppy side, but nice malt flavor. A bit thick.
Mouthfeel: Smooth, nicely carbonated
Overall: I like it!! can't say it enough...wonderfully balanced!

All in all, i really like your beers. Keep up the good brewing! perhaps we could plan a personal swap soon!

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RIS Served at 55F
Aroma:
Chocolate with slight coffee.

Appearance:
Bottle poured nice viscous deep black color with slight mocha head. Head dissapated midway.

Flavor:
Roasty and chocolatey in the fore.
Some dark fruitynotes in the mid palate.
Finishes with a bitter slightly astringent and powder-like sensation.
Alcohol is well masked.

Mouthfeel:
Carbonation is right on as is the body.

Overall:
This was a good beer and within style. Find out the source of the astrigency because this was the only flaw that might be a deal breaker for some. Oh and perhaps the head retention.


Did you perhaps not vouraluf completely? Grains get too hot? Oversparge? I had a similar problem with a wheat and tanninc extracted.

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Interesting,

I had the second bottle of Chriso's RIS last night during the track and field.

I didn't pick up on any astringency.

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Ignore me. I'm a RIS gnome, just bumping this thread. Some people, see, have the forum to not show posts older than 1 month. This leads to them thinking that their post was deleted - when in fact, it is just hiding from them. Just like this RIS gnome is hiding from you.



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