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Old 03-10-2013, 09:11 PM   #1
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I've read a lot of the recipes and threads about a Pliny The Elder clone, mostly all-grain, and one extract, and I wanted to post what I thought is a summation of all that information, and get any feedback before I brew this one.

I will be doing a full boil and shoot for 6 gallons of wort at the end of boil.

10.25# Breiss Golden Light DME, half at beginning of boil, half 15 minutes before end of boil
9oz Crystal 40, steep @ ~151 for 30 min
23oz of Dextrose, added at flameout

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3.5oz Columbus for 60 min
0.75oz Columbus for 45 min
1oz Simcoe for 30 min
1oz Centennial for 0 min (hopstand)
2.5oz Simcoe for 0 min (hopstand)

14 day primary.

1.5oz Columbus, 1oz Simcoe, .5oz Centennial dryhop for 14 days

.25oz Columbus, .25oz Simcoe, .125oz Centennial, .25oz Amarillo dryhop for 5 days

Plan to make a WLP001 yeast starter according to MrMalty. Shoot for an OG of 1.070 and a FG of 1.011.

Thanks for any feedback, looking forward to brewing this beer I've heard a lot about and am unable to get my hands on!

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I like it, that's pretty much an extract version on the recipe I've done before. Look into doing a "hop stand" for the "0 min" hops. There is a great article in the current BYO on this method, and it is an awesome technique for making hop bombs.

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I just brewed that as an all grain yesterday. I wanted to make sure i had 6 gallons post boil so i started with 7.75-8 gallons preboil b/c all the hops and 90 min boil. Wife just called me at work b/c fermentation is so active she is worried the 001 is rocking.

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I think I ended up boiling a little too much, had a little more than 6 after the boil. My fermentation is going nuts as well, pretty exciting.

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You'll be glad you had extra after the two dry hoppings. Between the hop stands and that much dry hopping, you could easily lose a half gal or more.

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Yeah, that's good to know. Definitely a lot of hops left over after moving to the carboy, and still some in the carboy...

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that's a ton of hops! O_o

let us know how it goes.

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I know! I can't believe how many hops I got! It was smelling great.

I will report back when I get to try it.

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I think 6 gallons post-boil is good. When you transfer from kettle to primary, you lose say 1/4-1/2 gallon to trub. And the clone recipe assumes 5 gallons AFTER fermentation.

Did you use Columbus pellets in the early boil, or HopShot? Was a vigorous boil reached before you added the first hop addition? The reduced boil length coupled with the fact that you added about 300 IBUs of hops to a reduced OG at boil start are of some concern. But it could be minimal. Let us know how the final results taste.

For the dryhop, I recommend dryhopping stage 1 in the primary for 6 days, then racking on top of a second stage of dryhops in the secondary for another 6 days. So, assume approx 2 oz. during each stage. This method is much more simple than adding/removing hops in the same vessel. It will also taste/smell much fresher than leaving both stages of dryhops in the same vessel for 12-14 days.

Don't be discouraged if the FG is slightly higher, perhaps about 1.013-1.015 in your case. It is tougher for extract and minimash brewers to hit their target FG as closely as an all-grain brewer can. Good luck!

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