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Old 03-07-2011, 03:27 PM   #201
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You can use regular beer caps on champagne bottles, at least the ones I buy. You could open the bottles you've already corked and re-cap them.

For what its worth, I've never tried to pastuerize in champagne bottles, I hope it works out for you.

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Old 03-07-2011, 06:03 PM   #202
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Well the concept is identical, so there should be no difference with a Champagne bottle compared to a regular beer bottle, except for the extra pressure allowance.

I put the 8 remaining bottles into the fridge for the night to give me time to decide what to do. As far as the four modified bottles, I think they will be fine for now. They seem to be holding the pressure so I might just keep an eye on them for now.

The bottle cap idea is an intriguing one, except that means I have to invest in a bottle capping system. Not overly expensive, it's just that I have no other usage for one. I bottle strictly 750ml bottles and will be upgrading to kegs soon. And besides, the uncorking is half the fun of a good cider.

It will have to wait until tomorrow regardless, so maybe another option might become available before then.

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Old 03-07-2011, 07:36 PM   #203
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I have some cider that I started fermenting in November that I'm about to get around to bottling(long conditioning, can't hurt, right? ) and I want to backsweeten and pasteurize...

One thing I'm confused about: won't the CO2 not be dissolved in the cider immediately, meaning that I might get "gushers" from the bottles when I'm testing them to see if they're appropriately carb'd?

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Old 03-07-2011, 08:01 PM   #204
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Well the concept is identical, so there should be no difference with a Champagne bottle compared to a regular beer bottle, except for the extra pressure allowance.
The champagne holds a larger volume and its glass is thicker than a typical beer bottle. Both of those potentially impact the transfer of heat from the water to the cider. You're right, the concept is the same, but I'm suggesting that using champagne bottles means that you may have to carefully adjust your process.

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Old 03-07-2011, 08:03 PM   #205
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I have some cider that I started fermenting in November that I'm about to get around to bottling(long conditioning, can't hurt, right? ) and I want to backsweeten and pasteurize...

One thing I'm confused about: won't the CO2 not be dissolved in the cider immediately, meaning that I might get "gushers" from the bottles when I'm testing them to see if they're appropriately carb'd?
That makes sense, but it hasn't been my experience.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:13 PM   #206
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Ok, I found out the hard way that Champagne bottles don't accept standard beer caps. Only their Belgian siblings do. So now I am back to where I began, without a solution. The only thing I can come up with is to grab a dozen beer bottles from somewhere and just transfer everything to bottles and begin again. At that point I'll need to revisit this idea to find a way for my Champagne bottles to work.

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Sorry, Naked, didn't mean to mislead you. The champagne bottles sold here in the USA take standard beer bottle caps, at least the ones I bought at my local homebrew store.

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No, no. No worries Pappers, I have always thought the same myself. And to be honest, a capper will find usage in my brewing closet so it wasn't a wasted purchase. I appreciate the suggestions as you can tell I'm running out of my own currently.

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i believe belgian champagne-style ale / kriek / lambic / etc bottles also take the larger (is it 29mm?) caps. this is of course no use to you now unless you want to get yet another piece of kit you may never use again. or you can go down the poor man's route and bottle in plastic? i would hate to do it, but worse things have happened.

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Nakeddog, what problem did you have with the capper. Cap too small? If so the 29mm cap will probably take care of the problem. If you're using one of the hand cappers, you may need to flip the plates in the throat to get it to fit around the neck of the bottle. At least that's what I have to do.

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