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Old 06-17-2009, 08:27 PM   #1
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Default Do all autosiphons "suck"?

Seriously.

I finally treated myself to an autosiphon on my last visit to my LHBS.

Starting out, it was great - love the simplicity. Near the end of transferring a batch to secondary, it started to put a massive amount of air into the beer, essentially oxegenating it.

Used it one other time with the same result. Upon close inspection, it dosen't seem broken but when it's down to about two or three inches of wort, suddenly I'm transferring a fizzing mess.

I'm about to throw it into the street.

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Old 06-17-2009, 08:28 PM   #2
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Lots of hatred for autosiphons around here lately.

Just so you know, my is the witches' tits.

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Does yours do the same thing?

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make sure the middle piston piece goes parallel to the outer piece, rather than rests on the edge at the top. i found this helped, and i also pour a little star san solution into the cylendar above in the dry area, that way if any suction is created around the gasket, it pulls in liquid rather than air.

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Does yours do the same thing?
It does not.

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make sure the middle piston piece goes parallel to the outer piece, rather than rests on the edge at the top. i found this helped, and i also pour a little star san solution into the cylendar above in the dry area, that way if any suction is created around the gasket, it pulls in liquid rather than air.
That's what I do. You need a nice, tight seal on that gasket.
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Maybe I can find some food-grade lube for that gasket. I use Idophor and would prefer not to have any sanitizer in the cane.

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I've experienced the same thing. I originally thought it was like telemark said since I had to extend the lower piece in order to reach the bottom of the carboy, and thought it was bending slightly at the join. So I bought an autosiphon long enough to reach the bottom without extension and last night while transferring a beer from secondary to the keg it was sucking bubbles through like crazy. I was going to destroy things but thought better of it. So now my Evil Twin is probably going to oxidize. All those poor wasted hops.

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Assuming the problem is coming from the inner ring, keg lube would help, every LHBS should have keg lube. I've found I get air pulled in around the siphon hose if I don't use thick wall tubing or use a clamp.

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Assuming the problem is coming from the inner ring, keg lube would help, every LHBS should have keg lube. I've found I get air pulled in around the siphon hose if I don't use thick wall tubing or use a clamp.
The bubbles are definately originating from the business end of the autosiphon so I'm thinking it has to be that one gasket. Thanks for the keg lube suggestion. Is it inert/tasteless?
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Lube the whole thing with water/sanitizer and when you push your first stroke, pinch the hose just past where the racking cane meets the hose and hold it for a few seconds to purge any bubbles. Keep your eye on it when the beer is near getting empty and lit as soon as the last of the beer is gone to avoid bubbles. I've followed those steps and never had a problem.

Make sure your flexible tubing is the right size. You want it as snug as you can. And don't store the cane inside the outer tube. The edge of the little rubber piece at the bottome of the cane will compress that way. Store them separately.

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