Actually, its much more simple (unless you let those nasty morals get in the way...)
doctorRobert said:On one hand you can use morals to defend breaking laws or contracts. Or you can use laws to break morals. Pick your battles.
And honestly, the brewing industry cries foul with these lost kegs. But if it is a serious problem they should fix it. Why would the deposit not be the replacement value of the keg? The current honor system doesn't work.
I've also never stolen a keg, can I date your daughter now? Pics please.
I work at a brewpub. One day we received a call from a pawn shop because someone was tring to pawn one of our kegs. We told them we don't sell our kegs and it was our property. He was arrested and fined and we received the keg back.
@Airborneguy...Ex Military?
Tim
Army SF.
Figured as much..lol
Army, Active, MP(PSD),SFC.
Other than the Screen Name, it was the need to close loop that tipped me off.
Tim
Yes, pretty sure he used SABCO. At least according to their website.
As for moral authority, there is none. Everyone has to make their own decisions, but I try to avoid knowingly breaking the law as I go through life.
If I want a used keg, there are ethical ways to get one. If they are too expensive, I do without. I don't steal one and claim a score.
If a keg cost the Brewery $150.00, and they then charged that as a deposit + the cost of the beer + the tap rental and so on, I know for sure that I would not be buying kegs for my functions...even if I plan on returning everything, the upfront cost is not worth it.
Tim
These days it is not uncommon for everyone to have a credit card, for a simple fix they should record your information when you purchase the keg and if you do not return the keg within X days your credit card gets charged with a $150 deposit. That way you are not paying an up-front fee.
That wouldn't work so well. What about people whose cards are soon to expire? Who decide to cancel their card in the meantime, or even maxed it out? Just the first one alone is quite a significant amount of people.
That wouldn't work so well. What about people whose cards are soon to expire?
Who decide to cancel their card in the meantime,
...even maxed it out?
I mean max it out in the interim. And sure, you could apply that to any transaction that involves a hold... but 150 days (5 months) is an exceptionally long hold and the opportunity for stuff like this to happen is much higher than during a typical CC hold, that's all I was getting at.Huge stretch... come on now! Wouldn't that "reasoning" apply to any credit card transaction that involves a hold?
Are you a boxer? Because you have some reach!
That would be denied on the spot.
RDWHAHB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well it seems to me that breweries aren't taking this seriously. Sam himself is not staying up late at night worrying about those 5% of missing kegs. DFH is a corporation: it is up to the brewery and the destributer/retailer to set a proper deposit rental as well as cost for beer.
My guess is that 99.9% of the kegs we brew in were stolen at one point in time. You are all either hypocrites or jealous you don't have keggles of your own.
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