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Old 10-11-2012, 06:28 PM   #1
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$36. I'm going to do this and finally start giving a crap about my water. A pro-brewer friend of mine makes excellent beer. I got one of his recipes and made it at home (yes I know other factors are involved) but the mouth feel and overall quality was no where close.

I'm wondering if there's a cheaper test available?


---Before the questions come in, I'm out in the middle of nowhere..about an hour from any town / city so my water is off two wells and rely heavily on the rain we get. There's a running river behind the house and I brew beers off the tap water. It's a new hot water heater so there aren't a lot of mineral deposits but the house is hold so plumbing may have some rust. I'm honestly not sure.

It tastes great to drink. Pretty soft.

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Old 10-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #2
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https://producers.wardlab.com/BrewersKitOrder.aspx

$36. I'm going to do this and finally start giving a crap about my water. A pro-brewer friend of mine makes excellent beer. I got one of his recipes and made it at home (yes I know other factors are involved) but the mouth feel and overall quality was no where close.

I'm wondering if there's a cheaper test available?


---Before the questions come in, I'm out in the middle of nowhere..about an hour from any town / city so my water is off two wells and rely heavily on the rain we get. There's a running river behind the house and I brew beers off the tap water. It's a new hot water heater so there aren't a lot of mineral deposits but the house is hold so plumbing may have some rust. I'm honestly not sure.

It tastes great to drink. Pretty soft.

Many people get the W-6 test, which should be enough. If your water is heavily influenced by rain you might be chasing a ghost of sorts, though.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:03 PM   #3
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Many people get the W-6 test, which should be enough. If your water is heavily influenced by rain you might be chasing a ghost of sorts, though.
Really? Why is that? Just rain patterns..it is "filtered" to a degree as it goes through the ground and into the well. I feel like our water does taste better in the spring when all of the snow melts (usually 4 feet deep snow in our yard) and that fills the river and water tastes better. It gets more minerally in the fall.
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The influence of rain will depend on the depth of the well(s). If they are tapping a deep aquifer how much it rains somewhere quite distant from you will be more important than the rain patterns at your location. Get the test done to see what's nominal and then you can either decide to go with that (which, if the water is low in mineral content is OK) or get additional tests or do some testing yourself to see about variability over time. If the water is variable an RO system is a possibility not so much because it takes out the minerals (which of course it does) but because in so doing it takes out the variability.

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Really? Why is that? Just rain patterns..it is "filtered" to a degree as it goes through the ground and into the well. I feel like our water does taste better in the spring when all of the snow melts (usually 4 feet deep snow in our yard) and that fills the river and water tastes better. It gets more minerally in the fall.
In general that more minerally taste is going to mean higher alkalinity, which will make for a harder time getting your mash pH in line. But, I'd wager (though one can't be certain) you must have a fair bit of variability (over the year at least) if you an so clearly taste the difference.
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In general that more minerally taste is going to mean higher alkalinity, which will make for a harder time getting your mash pH in line. But, I'd wager (though one can't be certain) you must have a fair bit of variability (over the year at least) if you an so clearly taste the difference.
or more likely, I'm just insane.

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If the OP is from New Hampshire, aren't the mountains up there mostly igneous? I don't believe there are carbonate aquifers or deposits up there. Mineralliness in the case of groundwater from a non-carbonate aquifer may be more likely from other metal ions like Fe and Mn.

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If the OP is from New Hampshire, aren't the mountains up there mostly igneous? I don't believe there are carbonate aquifers or deposits up there. Mineralliness in the case of groundwater from a non-carbonate aquifer may be more likely from other metal ions like Fe and Mn.
Good question. NO idea. I'm living on a mountain. Peak is a few thousand feet and the rain feeds into 4 rivers (one running behind my house) that feed into a lake that's about 4 square miles in size.
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I have used the w-6 test, $16.50. download the order form, fill water bottle and send. It gives you all the tests. It gives everything that the beer test for 26.50 gives except phosphorus and iron.
http://www.wardlab.com/images/Sample...HomeBrewer.pdf

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