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Old 03-29-2007, 02:51 AM   #1
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So I brewed a Sam Summer clone from North American Clone Brews earlier this year and finally cracked a bottle today. While the beer is delicious, in fact one of my better brews so far, it tastes VERY much like a Belgian white. There's a strong tart.... Belgian taste! The same flavor I got from my Belgian White... sort of residually sweet yet sour and tart at the same time. "Belgian-y".

Now it has been 7 or so months since I've had a Sam Summer, so perhaps my taste-buds have a short memory... but something seems amiss. All references to the beer I can find describe it as an American Wheat. Yet, all the clones I can find use Belgian Wit yeasts as opposed to Hefe or other yeasts. Any thoughts on this?

I really want to nail this beer! That Belgian flavor seems to overpower those delicate Grains of Paradise and Lemon Zest. Haha I figure, if I can get this recipe damn near perfect, I'll just brew 10 batches or so and have a great summer!

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Old 03-29-2007, 07:13 PM   #2
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well I guess it's safe to assume that no one else has had this problem before...

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You can try harvesting some yeast from the bottles. Just hope that they don't filter the beer then add a different (less flocculant) strain after filtration.

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Dunno, but American Wheats usually use a very neutral strain like 1056 or equivalent.

I think I may be doing something along the lines of Bell's Oberon (American Wheat) soon for summer and will probably use Safale 05 (formerly US 56).

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blarg... stupid North American Clone Brews...

I'd love to try rehydrating some Sam Summer yeast, but I dont want to lose a whle batch if in fact they DO filter it out and use a seperate yeast for cloudiness and conditioning. Hmmm... maybe WL 001? That might be too fruity though. Would that even go well with a wheat?
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Hmmm... maybe WL 001? That might be too fruity though.
-Ben
WLP001 would be to clean for that kind of a beer. I think you want some characteristics of the yeast, where I find that 001 is a very clean fermenting yeast... my 2 cents..
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that's a really good point.. huh... what to use?! I should just ask Jim Koch....

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