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Old 04-30-2008, 12:32 AM   #1
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If I'm planning on using a immersion chiller why can I not just use my auto siphon? Convince me to spend another 50 bucks.

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Old 04-30-2008, 12:33 AM   #2
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You don't need it.

I'm 70+ batches into my brewing career and doing just fine with a racking cane.

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Old 04-30-2008, 12:35 AM   #3
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I think the easiest argument is that your auto-siphon may not be designed to rack 200+ F. A stainless steel ball valve is very simple to use and you can control the rate at which your transfer your wort.

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Well, he's right though. If you chill in place, you can rack it off no biggie.

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Old 04-30-2008, 12:40 AM   #5
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I think the easiest argument is that your auto-siphon may not be designed to rack 200+ F. A stainless steel ball valve is very simple to use and you can control the rate at which your transfer your wort.
But you chill with ther immersion chiller prior to siphon. So I agree, you don't NEED it. I suppose draining from valve may some how provide some convenience.
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Why siphon at all? I just pour out of my boiling pot through a strainer right into the primary, after cooling with an IC.

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Why siphon at all? I just pour out of my boiling pot through a strainer right into the primary, after cooling with an IC.
Many use a keg to boil their wort. Good luck pouring that thing into a fermenter
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:09 AM   #9
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Many use a keg to boil their wort. Good luck pouring that thing into a fermenter
OP did say a "pot" in the thread title, not keggle. (not trying to sound like an a$$ here, so don't take this the wrong way or anything other than a simple observation)
I wouldn't pour out a keggle, as the design of the top edge isn't very conducive to proper, or sanitary pouring. The empty keggle weighs alot more than my 7.5 gallon alum. pot as well. Of course you have to get that keggle or pot up to the level where you'll be able to siphon back down to a fermenter. This can be done with a pump for $$$, or you can lift the MLT, or do it with a smaller container many times. Any way, I pick up 7 gallons in an alum. pot and lift it the foot or so to move it to the burner, and I pour out the 5.5 gallons that are left in the pot after the boil, into the bucket. My MLT is in the kitchen, and the burner is about 15' feet away out the back door, on my patio. It's not a huge distance, but I do appreciate that some people can't do this, and I am by no means putting those people down.

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I guess the OP needs to plan a little more about how they're going to brew. Do they have a problem getting the boiling pot full of liquid high enough to siphon from in the first place?

Just curious now, I guess I take it for granted that I can lift 100+ pounds at this point in my life.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:18 AM   #10
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Oh, I am ADD and didn't read your original post properly. I didn't notice that you said it was an immersion chiller. Either way, I agree with everyone else that you dont NEED it, but damn I love having it.

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