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I only think it has become accepted through constant misuse. If "preventative" is a word, it's root is "preventate". As in: I want to preventate anyone from using this silly word.

preventative is a word - just google it (there's one that gets to me sometimes - google, do I have no other choice of search engine now that you have commanded that I use that one? :D). One source says it has the same meaning but preventative is used less often - 3:1 I think. I have always know it from preventative maintenance. But I agree that the use of a non common word in place of the well know preferred one just to sound smarter is annoying.
 
preventative is a word - just google it (there's one that gets to me sometimes - google, do I have no other choice of search engine now that you have commanded that I use that one? :D). One source says it has the same meaning but preventative is used less often - 3:1 I think. I have always know it from preventative maintenance. But I agree that the use of a non common word in place of the well know preferred one just to sound smarter is annoying.

People who use search engines other than google also are 100% guaranteed to use internet explorer. They have also likely installed a few "helpful" toolbars in to said browser.

Annoying phrase: "touch base"
Annoying word: champion. As in, Mr. Herpderp championed this retarded waste of time project. Or, "I think we should stop wasting time with all these meetings and just send an email." "VERY GOOD idea Mr. Paulster - perhaps you'd like to champion the email distribution?" "**** off and touch base with me later."
 
Now that I've started, I can't help my self:
"Ramped up" and "untracked". Frequently used in sports reporting, both are nonsense. You can't ramp anything, and tracking is following. I really want to preventate this style of commentation.
 
Or are you that arrogant enough that you cannot admit fault sometimes? If this doesnt apply to you then,um, my bad? :confused:

Read the title of the thread. Sorry if my "arrogant" post annoys you. Actually, I'm not sorry. Chill out, dude.
 
Read the title of the thread. Sorry if my "arrogant" post annoys you. Actually, I'm not sorry. Chill out, dude.

Sorry man, I was drunk and trying to make a joke and it didnt come out right. I wasnt freaking out or anything. My Bad. Ha,ha.:cross: I dont think "your" arrogant. I meant it in context of My bad's meaning and somebody admiting fault and the joke went all haywire. Chairs flying,glass breaking,looting.. you know the whole 9 yards. Any way again, my bad, my bad joke.:eek::confused: I think somewhere in there I was just being a drunk smartass and I still cant figure out what the hell I was thinking or reading. That said, I apologize if I offended you and my bad.:) I think now, Im just really entertaining myself. Hey, at least nobodys drinking and driving-this is like totally safe texting and stuff.
 
MaxStout said:
When people turn nouns into verbs. This is especially common in corporate jargon. E.g., "let's dialogue on this issue before the meeting. Or "can we liase with the client this week?"

It's called verbing, which is one of the most autological words I can think of.
 
People who use search engines other than google also are 100% guaranteed to use internet explorer. They have also likely installed a few "helpful" toolbars in to said browser...

Touché :D I admit i still use IE at home because I am too lazy to get anything else... no extra toolbars though
 
People who use search engines other than google also are 100% guaranteed to use internet explorer. They have also likely installed a few "helpful" toolbars in to said browser.

well, actually... not quite 100%

I use bing search, google chrome, no toolbars, 3 extensions
 
It's called verbing, which is one of the most autological words I can think of.
and now, a reading from the book of Calvin:

CalvinAndHobbes.png
 
Sorry man, I was drunk and trying to make a joke and it didnt come out right. I wasnt freaking out or anything. My Bad. Ha,ha.:cross: I dont think "your" arrogant. I meant it in context of My bad's meaning and somebody admiting fault and the joke went all haywire. Chairs flying,glass breaking,looting.. you know the whole 9 yards. Any way again, my bad, my bad joke.:eek::confused: I think somewhere in there I was just being a drunk smartass and I still cant figure out what the hell I was thinking or reading. That said, I apologize if I offended you and my bad.:) I think now, Im just really entertaining myself. Hey, at least nobodys drinking and driving-this is like totally safe texting and stuff.

It didn't offend me, it just came across as a bit douchy. Don't worry about it, it was my bad.;)
 
I only think it has become accepted through constant misuse. If "preventative" is a word, it's root is "preventate". As in: I want to preventate anyone from using this silly word.

Yup, that clearly follows. You can preventate this exploitive use of the English language if you write to your Representive in Congress. If s/he is argumentive enough to push through authoritive (or some might say exploitive) legislation, we can do away with this silly use of language.

;)
 
Yup, that clearly follows. You can preventate this exploitive use of the English language if you write to your Representive in Congress. If s/he is argumentive enough to push through authoritive (or some might say exploitive) legislation, we can do away with this silly use of language.

;)

Finally! Someone gets it! :)
Though, of course, commentator and representative are nouns.
And God forbid congress should try to regulate language, they suck at the stuff they are authoritated to do presentatively.
 
presentatively.

Hilarious.

Though, of course, commentator and representative are nouns.

As I used it, "representative" was, but it can also be an adjective. "Commentative" is rare, but is used on occasion. It's mainly British, I believe.

Anyway, it's all close enough for gov't work, right? I was just trying to think of any roots that get the extra "ta" (or similar addition) when they change forms. Many of them we wouldn't want to do without. Some have different meanings (systematic/systemic), some different uses on either side of the pond, and of course, some are just good old mistakes. Language is a funny thing. It never ceases to amaze (and frustrate) me.
 
There are plenty for everyone.

There'd better be! :mad:


Back on topic now, I've heard several people today drop the "have" out of sentences when the past participle "got" is used. It's bugging me more than usual, even though I know this is a common error. I want to shake people and tell them the drivel that is coming out of their mouths doesn't mean what they think it means.
 
Well if it's used in the past tense like "I got a speeding ticket" I'd say it's not appropriate to use "have" but if it's in the future tense like "I have got to go shopping this weekend" then it's just bad grammar all the way around.

Is there any situation where "have" and "got" are appropriate together? Maybe as a past passive participle? "Having gotten a ticket on my way to work, I slowed down and arrived late".

Damn, after reading that, I want to kick my own ass!
 
Well if it's used...

Oh, clearly there are good uses of this construction. I'm not denying that - it's the simple past tense of "to get." But in these cases the "have" was intended, but simply dropped. So "I have got to see that movie," which is a clunkier but acceptable way to say "I have to (want/need to) see that movie," makes perfect sense. But when you drop the "have" and expect it to mean the same thing, it's obnoxious.

It gets even worse when the construction "have got" is used to simply mean "have," then the "have is dropped." So instead of saying "I have that DVD," some are inclined to say "I've got that DVD" and intend the same meaning. When the "have" is dropped, and the same meaning is intended, I'm always tempted to mock people.

"I got mad game!"
"Oh yeah? When did you receive it?"
"Huh?"

or

"I got to see that movie!"
"Oh, how was it?"
"No, I mean I got to see it. I got to (gotta) go this weekend."
"You mean this past weekend, clearly..."
"Huh?"
stabstabstab

Is there any situation where "have" and "got" are appropriate together? Maybe as a past passive participle? "Having gotten a ticket on my way to work, I slowed down and arrived late".

There are plenty, depending upon how strict you mean to be as a grammarian. Your examples are fine, as is, I would hold, the use to mean some rough equivalent of have/want/need to or must. It's mainly the use to mean exactly "have" that bothers me, as the extra word there is clearly superfluous. Beyond that, since people tend to focus on it, the functional verb of the sentence, whether it stands alone or part of a contraction, is often dropped. It drives me nuts. :mad:
 
...It gets even worse when the construction "have got" is used to simply mean "have," then the "have is dropped." So instead of saying "I have that DVD," some are inclined to say "I've got that DVD" and intend the same meaning. When the "have" is dropped, and the same meaning is intended, I'm always tempted to mock people...

I sure that it was a typo but is the have still there :D I got to be right on that one?
 
I sure that it was a typo but is the have still there :D I got to be right on that one?

No, I meant to use the contraction. What I mean is the "have" is eventually dropped entirely, whether used in its entirety or as part of a contraction.

Or are you rather asking the larger question of, if it's only used as part of a contraction, is it really even there anymore? And if a tree falls in the forest...;)
 
No, I meant to use the contraction. What I mean is the "have" is eventually dropped entirely, whether used in its entirety or as part of a contraction.

Or are you rather asking the larger question of, if it's only used as part of a contraction, is it really even there anymore? And if a tree falls in the forest...;)

Sorry I didn't get you were meaning before the Have got completely dropped - I just do hear that all the time - "I got to do this/that..."
 
Okay, it was bad enough in the corporate world (and then as smartphones gained in popularity among the masses, private life as well) getting an email with the signature line saying "Sent from my Blackberry wireless device" and then "Sent from my iPhone" or "Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G device". I wanted to grab those people and slap them with a brick.

But now we have to put up with it in the forums here, too??? ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME????
 
Okay, it was bad enough in the corporate world (and then as smartphones gained in popularity among the masses, private life as well) getting an email with the signature line saying "Sent from my Blackberry wireless device" and then "Sent from my iPhone" or "Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G device". I wanted to grab those people and slap them with a brick.

But now we have to put up with it in the forums here, too??? ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME????

Sending out a commercial for some product you purchased every time you send a message.. I don't understand it either. I never know if the person is proud, or too lazy to fix it.

Sent from my Charter 30 Mbps home built desktop.:D
 
Okay, it was bad enough in the corporate world (and then as smartphones gained in popularity among the masses, private life as well) getting an email with the signature line saying "Sent from my Blackberry wireless device" and then "Sent from my iPhone" or "Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G device". I wanted to grab those people and slap them with a brick.

But now we have to put up with it in the forums here, too??? ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME????

Quoted in its righteous entirety because I literally jumped over to this thread to post the exact same thing.

Cheers! <grumble>
 

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