American Wheat Beer Widmer Hefeweizen American Wheat

[lschiavo]

it has been a while, I have no troubles with stuck sparges on my new mash/tun but I believe I put in the rice hulls first and let them settle a bit before adding the grains.

I have not conditioned my malt yet, my barley crusher is set to the standard setting, which I believe is .037.

Hopefully someone else pipes in with experience in sparge troubles with wheat because I guess I just haven't had enough experience.

The rice hulls first seems to make sense. I think I will at least try that next time. I appreciate your help and anyone else who might have any suggestion.

 

[humann_brewing]

The rice hulls first seems to make sense. I think I will at least try that next time. I appreciate your help and anyone else who might have any suggestion.

check this thread out on using rice hulls

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/rice-hulls-how-use-143864/

 

[lschiavo]

check this thread out on using rice hulls

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/rice-hulls-how-use-143864/

Thanks. That answered some questions.

 

[Brutus Brewer]

Thinking about making this using some Nottingham as I have a packet in my supply. Any thoughts on how it might turn out?

 

[humann_brewing]

Thinking about making this using some Nottingham as I have a packet in my supply. Any thoughts on how it might turn out?

Well it won't be the same beer but probably still good. Do you have any other yeasts?

 

[gbrewing]

Humann Brewing,

I tried your recipe today. Looking forward to tasting how it turns out. I the amount of hops a bit to make sure they came in overall at 30%. Thanks for posting this recipe. If it comes close to Widmer Hef, I think I might get an open checkbook to buy more brewing equipment. The wife loves the beer.

 

[humann_brewing]

Humann Brewing,

I tried your recipe today. Looking forward to tasting how it turns out. I the amount of hops a bit to make sure they came in overall at 30%. Thanks for posting this recipe. If it comes close to Widmer Hef, I think I might get an open checkbook to buy more brewing equipment. The wife loves the beer.

good to hear, what part of Washington are you from? I spent the first 27 years of my life up there and miss it dearly.

 

[ButcherBrew]

Humann,

Any chance I could bother you for a Partial version of your recipe please? Love Widmer and havent taken the leap to AG quite yet. Appreciate your help

 

[humann_brewing]

Humann,

Any chance I could bother you for a Partial version of your recipe please? Love Widmer and havent taken the leap to AG quite yet. Appreciate your help

This is what Beersmith gave me when converting it to PM. Still looks like your mashing close to 8lbs of grain. Can you mash that much? I also changed the efficiency to 74% which may be closer to what you get.

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.98 gal
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 4.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 32.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.33 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 3.45 %
0.81 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 8.41 %
0.67 lb Wheat Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 6.98 %
4.26 lb Great Western 2 Row (2.0 SRM) Grain 44.47 %
3.31 lb Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 34.48 %
0.14 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 1.48 %
0.07 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 0.74 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.8 IBU
0.25 oz Millenium [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.8 IBU
0.05 oz Horizon [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
0.50 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.4 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (1 min) Hops 0.5 IBU
1 Pkgs American Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP32Yeast-Wheat


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 8.11 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 10.14 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 5.68 qt of water at 200.7 F 168.0 F

 

[ButcherBrew]

Thanks Humann...

That is a big grain bill for me. I only have a 21 Qt pot....So I will need to convert some grains to LME...Any ideas? Wish I had beersmith.

 

[humann_brewing]

Thanks Humann...

That is a big grain bill for me. I only have a 21 Qt pot....So I will need to convert some grains to LME...Any ideas? Wish I had beersmith.

Here is what I got with just eye balling the numbers to add more extract and take more grains away. Less than 3 lbs of grain now.

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.98 gal
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 7.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 32.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.33 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 3.85 %
2.75 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 32.05 %
2.50 lb Wheat Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 29.14 %
1.50 lb Great Western 2 Row (2.0 SRM) Grain 17.48 %
1.25 lb Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 14.57 %
0.15 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 1.75 %
0.10 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 1.17 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.8 IBU
0.25 oz Millenium [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.8 IBU
0.05 oz Horizon [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
0.50 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.4 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (1 min) Hops 0.5 IBU
1 Pkgs American Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP32Yeast-Wheat


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 3.33 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 4.16 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 2.33 qt of water at 200.7 F 168.0 F

 

[ButcherBrew]

Awesome! That should work. I will give this a shot soon.

Appreciate your help Humann!

 

[humann_brewing]

Awesome! That should work. I will give this a shot soon.

Appreciate your help Humann!

let me know how it turns out. Also, don't feel bad if you know have the exact same bittering addition. Basically you'll be fine with a nice clean bittering hop like magnum, warrior etc...

 

[scooterunderwood]

Ok, I'm a little confused by this recipe. It says the boil size is 7 gal, but you mash in with 11.42 qt, and mash out with 6.40 qt. That's only 4.45 gal, wheres the other ~3gals coming from?

 

[humann_brewing]

Ok, I'm a little confused by this recipe. It says the boil size is 7 gal, but you mash in with 11.42 qt, and mash out with 6.40 qt. That's only 4.45 gal, wheres the other ~3gals coming from?

the 6.4 qt is used to raise the mash temp up to mash out temp. You proceed with either sparging methods from there.

 

[stanley1271]

Hey guys I am trying to use this recipe as a partial mash, but I am also trying to do it with what is available to me at this point. Can you take a look at the below recipe and see if this is close?

Style: Weizen/Weissbier
TYPE: Partial Mash
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 4.08 gal
Estimated OG: 1.054 SG
Estimated Color: 7.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 27.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.3 oz Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 3.85 %
2 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 32.05 %
2 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 29.14 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 17.48 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 14.57 %
2.4 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 1.75 %
1.6 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 1.17 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 10.8 IBU
0.05 oz Horizon [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 1.7 IBU
0.25 oz Milenium [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 10.1 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.3 IBU
0.50 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.3 IBU
1 Pkgs American Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP32Yeast-Wheat


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 3.33 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 4.16 qt of water at 167.8 F 154.0 F


Notes:
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[humann_brewing]

Hey guys I am trying to use this recipe as a partial mash, but I am also trying to do it with what is available to me at this point. Can you take a look at the below recipe and see if this is close?

Style: Weizen/Weissbier
TYPE: Partial Mash
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 4.08 gal
Estimated OG: 1.054 SG
Estimated Color: 7.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 27.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.3 oz Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 3.85 %
2 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 32.05 %
2 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 29.14 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 17.48 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 14.57 %
2.4 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 1.75 %
1.6 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 1.17 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 10.8 IBU
0.05 oz Horizon [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 1.7 IBU
0.25 oz Milenium [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 10.1 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.3 IBU
0.50 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.3 IBU
1 Pkgs American Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP32Yeast-Wheat


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 3.33 lb
----------------------------
Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 4.16 qt of water at 167.8 F 154.0 F


Notes:
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that looks good to me. Also, if you don't have all those bittering hop, you will be find with just a good clean bittering hop like magnum, warrior etc...

 

[Emyrs]

Ok, I'm a little confused by this recipe. It says the boil size is 7 gal, but you mash in with 11.42 qt, and mash out with 6.40 qt. That's only 4.45 gal, wheres the other ~3gals coming from?

Im going to assume its for the sparge...

a lot of people mash out as their sparge. but some like to have an actual mash out step, then sparge after.

 

[humann_brewing]

Im going to assume its for the sparge...

a lot of people mash out as their sparge. but some like to have an actual mash out step, then sparge after.

correct, that is probably what I did with this one since it was when I was using a cooler and didn't have the rims going.

 

[WAORGANY]

I think I may do some tweaking the next time I make this and try to get the 3 hops that are used in their alchemy blend that is used for bitttering but I am happy with the results.

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7 gal
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 4.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 33.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 82.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.30 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 3.28 %
4.50 lb Great Western 2 Row (2.0 SRM) Grain 49.25 %
3.60 lb Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 39.40 %
0.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 5.47 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2.60 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.8 IBU
0.25 oz Millenium [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.8 IBU
0.05 oz Horizon [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (15 min) Hops 5.3 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (1 min) Hops 0.5 IBU
0.50 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.4 IBU
1 Pkgs American Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP32Yeast-Wheat


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 9.14 lb
----------------------------
Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 11.42 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 6.40 qt of water at 200.7 F 168.0 F

Mine on the left

Thanks, I am originally from Oregon and this might be my real first Craft beer that started it all...making an IPA this weekend, might try this on my next batch thanks again..always have a few pints of this when I am back home!

 

[humann_brewing]

Thanks, I am originally from Oregon and this might be my real first Craft beer that started it all...making an IPA this weekend, might try this on my next batch thanks again..always have a few pints of this when I am back home!

very nice, yeah. I am originally from the NW too, hope to make it back up there at some point but started pretty big roots where I am at.

I love this beer on a nice hot day myself or every once in a while. I am not much of a fan of the banana and clove that the German style has and will probably get slapped by other members for that comment.

 

[PricePeeler]

I suppose it may be up to preference, but I was wondering if we should treat this yeast (320) like any other hefeweizen yeast:
Meaning ferment for a couple weeks +- a few days or until fermintation is complete, then straight to keg, carb, and serve "young."

Was thinking about bumping up the wheat content and changing the crystal to 10L.
Will let you know how it works out. Planning to ferment at 62F/16.6C ish along side my hefe in progress, using wlp380.

 

[humann_brewing]

I suppose it may be up to preference, but I was wondering if we should treat this yeast (320) like any other hefeweizen yeast:
Meaning ferment for a couple weeks +- a few days or until fermintation is complete, then straight to keg, carb, and serve "young."

Was thinking about bumping up the wheat content and changing the crystal to 10L.
Will let you know how it works out. Planning to ferment at 62F/16.6C ish along side my hefe in progress, using wlp380.

This a good beer to have young, nothing wrong with that as long as you let it finish out. I think 62 is pretty low for this strain though, you want some character from the yeast.

 

[223nbecker45]

I have all of the grain ready to go but when I enter the hops it said ibu was around 11 percent. I moved the ibu to 33 and the hops went to
.5 millennium
.5 warrior
1 cascade
1cascade
1 magnum

Will this be ok?

 

[aeviaanah]

Don't use the magnum for aroma- what schedule are you planning on using these?

 

[223nbecker45]

I'm using the magnum for bittering I changed my equipment in beer smith and the hop additions changed back closer to the recipe. First time using the software and all grain

 

[223nbecker45]

White labs said that the yeast can stall and you rack to secondary and it takes off again. Has anyone had to do this?

 

[humann_brewing]

White labs said that the yeast can stall and you rack to secondary and it takes off again. Has anyone had to do this?

I never had to do that with WLP320, just keep them healthy and pitch at the right rate and temp and you'll be fine.

 

[223nbecker45]

I made a 2 liter starter and have it in my fermentation fridge at 68 so I should be ok. Can't wait for it to finish!

 

[m_perci]

just brewed this one today, but subbed millennium for centennial. This will be the centerpiece to my Oktoberfest, can't wait. Thanks for the recipe, go pac12:rockin:

I'll let you know how it is.