why no bmc stout?

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Bud American Ale is very good.

It is not good, it is not bad. It is passable. I don't dislike it. I just won't be buying it again unless I am in restaurant with limited choices. However, we all have different tastes, and yours is equally as valid as mine.

I am way cooler than you, though....So your opinion sucks!!

 

[bkov]

bmc= $20 30packs, to me. so guiness wouldent count

 

[SPLASTiK]

A bar here used to sell Bare Knuckle on draft but they've since switched to Guinness.

I wish they sold Guinness Foreign Extra in the USA. That's actually very tasty.

 

[niquejim]

Bud now has their American ale. If that is successful, we may just get the BMC stout one day too (Apart from Guinness) Maybe we should be careful what we wish for.

Damn you and your wishes
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[harrydrez]

They're probably losing a lot of sales to the craft brewers, now that your average American has more in the way of choice. Getting a little desperate perhaps?

 

[davesrose]

Most people will not agree with you on the "Very" part, but put bud heavy side by side with bud ale. I think 10 out of 10 home brewers will take the ale.

Is that the general consensus with HBT members? I've tasted Bud Ale once....and I was thoroughly unimpressed. I saw all these comercials about how they used so "real malt". When I was trying out a restaurant, Bud Ale was the only non BMC on tap....so I figured I'd give it a go. Sure enough, it was way more of an amber color then regular bud.....but when it came to tasting, I was floored to taste the same rice/corn adjuncts and just a very slight difference in taste from regular Bud. Something tells me they *might* use a crystal malt and then ferment at ale temps, but that's it. It wasn't like some of the more positive reviews I heard of it saying it was a nice malty profile over a regular Bud.

So I think my take is if I had to drink a Bud, I'd get Bud Ale if it was the same price as regular Bud. If it was more, then I'd just get a Bud (IF I REALLY HAD TOO....IF THERE WAS NOTHING BUT BMC). When it comes to the bigger beer companies trying craft styles, my most favorite is Michelob Porter.

 

[Schlenkerla]

So I think my take is if I had to drink a Bud, I'd get Bud Ale if it was the same price as regular Bud. If it was more, then I'd just get a Bud (IF I REALLY HAD TOO....IF THERE WAS NOTHING BUT BMC). When it comes to the bigger beer companies trying craft styles, my most favorite is Michelob Porter.

I'm talking likability. If it modest dif, well I get what I like. Its all about marginal value. What are you willing to pay for the beer? If its got a big premium well I'd say fark-it too.

 

[z987k]

Is that the general consensus with HBT members? I've tasted Bud Ale once....and I was thoroughly unimpressed. I saw all these comercials about how they used so "real malt". When I was trying out a restaurant, Bud Ale was the only non BMC on tap....so I figured I'd give it a go. Sure enough, it was way more of an amber color then regular bud.....but when it came to tasting, I was floored to taste the same rice/corn adjuncts and just a very slight difference in taste from regular Bud. Something tells me they *might* use a crystal malt and then ferment at ale temps, but that's it. It wasn't like some of the more positive reviews I heard of it saying it was a nice malty profile over a regular Bud.

So I think my take is if I had to drink a Bud, I'd get Bud Ale if it was the same price as regular Bud. If it was more, then I'd just get a Bud (IF I REALLY HAD TOO....IF THERE WAS NOTHING BUT BMC). When it comes to the bigger beer companies trying craft styles, my most favorite is Michelob Porter.

Hmm, I didn't get much of an adjunct profile at all. If they told me it was 2-row some crystal malts and cascades I would believe it.

 

[davesrose]

I'm talking likability.

Yeah, that's mainly why I ask. When I first saw the commercials and reception on Bud Ale, it made it sound like it was a huge departure from their regular products. So they probably were setting me up for disapointment Was just wondering if other HBTers were as critical about it as I. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that it's not a departure from their other beers, as they're into simple/mass produced vs variety of ingredients.

 

[davesrose]

Hmm, I didn't get much of an adjunct profile at all. If they told me it was 2-row some crystal malts and cascades I would believe it.

I didn't taste much in the way of hops...especially not a higher AA American hop. But I did get similar corn type notes I equate regular bud with....I just wasn't getting a strong American Ale with it. Give me a good California Ale any day of the week

 

[adfirmus]

I didn't taste much in the way of hops...especially not a higher AA American hop. But I did get similar corn type notes I equate regular bud with....I just wasn't getting a strong American Ale with it. Give me a good California Ale any day of the week

I like american ale okay, but I've never bought a six pack and just drank it alone. I think what it is, for me at-least, American Ale taste good to me because I usually only drink it when I am at a Party or get together that is mostly BMC light beer. I'll drink the light beer, because hey! It's a party right? it's usually after swilling down a bud light that I find an American Ale buried in the bottom of the cool or back of fridge and grab one. It taste really good in comparison to Bud Light. But that doesn't make it the best tasting beer.

Then again, sea-water would taste delicious compared to sewer water.

Edit: Oh, and to the OP, I think BMC would market goat-sweat flavored light beer if their was a market for it.

 

[Orangevango]

I think canned beer sucks in general. (Looking at the Beer Advocate...)

What about the entire oscar blues lineup (sans "mamas little yella pills") All of those beers are great, they just arent meant to be consumed from the can. The can Is a much better container than the bottle, its skunk proof and oxidization proof, its lighter to ship, and it does not contribute off flavors any more than a keg does.

Give cans a chance.

 

[homebrewer_99]

That question does not require an answer...

But I think it's because they're still learning how to make good beer...

 

[Schlenkerla]

What about the entire oscar blues lineup (sans "mamas little yella pills") All of those beers are great, they just arent meant to be consumed from the can. The can Is a much better container than the bottle, its skunk proof and oxidization proof, its lighter to ship, and it does not contribute off flavors any more than a keg does.

Give cans a chance.

Its probably just me, but I taste metal. Its just like eating off a metal tray. I hate taste and the sound a knife scraping across a metal plate. Think nails on a chalkboard.

Don't get me wrong, if you handed me a can of beer I'd say thanks and pop it open. The only time I get cans is when bottles aren't allowed.

 

[DtownRiot]

Michelob winter cask ale is quite good. Its put in bourbon barrels to age and has a neat vanilla flavor. The price is nice too! I think for a BMC type beer michelob is kinda on top of the game

 

[Schlenkerla]

Michelob winter cask ale is quite good. Its put in bourbon barrels to age and has a neat vanilla flavor. The price is nice too! I think for a BMC type beer michelob is kinda on top of the game

Haven't tried that yet..... Might worth remembering this fall.

 

[remilard]

I didn't taste much in the way of hops...especially not a higher AA American hop. But I did get similar corn type notes I equate regular bud with....I just wasn't getting a strong American Ale with it. Give me a good California Ale any day of the week

Is there a reason you equate Budweiser with corn notes?

Budweiser has no corn in it.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Is there a reason you equate Budweiser with corn notes?

Budweiser has no corn in it.

Touche' - How correct, it has rice! Miller is has corn. Don't ask me about Coors....

remilard - Hope I didn't steal your thunder!!!

 

[eelpout]

That's why you find it in EVERY bar, even the bmc only sports bars...That's usually the only beer I end up ordering in most crappy chains and sports bars....

It really sucks though that often times in those places all their beers either come in a frosty mug or a plastic cup....

Cmon on now, I been to some bad bars, dirty bars, fairly unsafe for most bars, even bars that had grass growing up thru the holes in the floor where people fell thru,,
but never ever had some one sell me a beer in plastic cup.

havent seen that bareknuckle stuff yet. But I will give it a try.

 

[Rick500]

A friend and I went to a new "Irish pub" in town, sat down, ordered (I don't remember... probably Guinness or something... there wasn't a big selection), and were handed two 16 ounce plastic cups of beer.

Have not returned to the place.

 

[beerkrump]

Is anyone really surprised that Bud American Ale is bland and unassertive? Yes, it is better than any NAIL that is usually served up at the local watering hole. But, as all AB brew, it is mostly reliant upon marketing, not flavor, for sales. A lot will have to change for really good beer to come out a BMC factory.

--Oh yea! Just a side note, Good Girls Don't (The Knack) just came on my MP3 player...

 

[davesrose]

Is there a reason you equate Budweiser with corn notes?

Budweiser has no corn in it.

But Budweiser is the largest buyer of rice in this country I think it's the blend of little malt to heavy rice adjuncts that make it seem to have a similar corn type taste as Miller (which does use corn as its main adjunct).

 

[Schlenkerla]

But Budweiser is the largest buyer of rice in this country I think it's the blend of little malt to heavy rice adjuncts that make it seem to have a similar corn type taste as Miller (which does use corn as its main adjunct).

I see your point. If a beer has a grassy flavor it doesn't mean that one added Kentucky Bluegrass to the beer!

I've never noticed the corn flavor in Bud though.

 

[davesrose]

I've never noticed the corn flavor in Bud though.

Does corn have a strong flavor? I always equate maize as being dry tasting (ie corn tortilla vs flour...which seems sweeter). But yeah, I just meant it as a general term for the corn/rice adjuncts that BMC uses to get a dry lager devoid of that nasty malt profile Anyway, that dry adjunct flavor is what I also taste in Bud Ale....but maybe it's just because I'm comparing it to a real craft ale....like what it's supposed to be emulating.

And yes, grassy, peaty, can be used for describing a hop vs malt profile....and beers can be chocolaty without having chocolate in them. But now maybe I need to buy a Bud and a Miller to see how different rice vs corn adjunct tastes in a watered down, dry beer....man, this group makes me do too much thinking about beer....even swill beer :cross:

 

[Endovelico]

It's called guinness.

 

[Hegh]

why are there no bmc cheap stouts? 30pack cans for around $20? just add some chocolate malt, its not like they're not a lot more expensive to brew. reason they're not as popular is because majority are used to guiness as the normal stout, which is expensive compared to bmc

people drink dark coffee every day, which stouts have a slight hint of. why are there no cheap mass brewed canned stouts?

There is piss yellow, then there is dark beer. They resist it like the dark side.

I like american ale okay, but I've never bought a six pack and just drank it alone. I think what it is, for me at-least, American Ale tastes good to me because I usually only drink it when I am at a Party or get together that is mostly BMC light beer. I'll drink the light beer, because hey! It's a party right? it's usually after swilling down a bud light that I find an American Ale buried in the bottom of the cooler or back of the fridge and grab one. It tastes really good in comparison to Bud Light. But that doesn't make it the best tasting beer.

Then again, sea-water would taste delicious compared to sewer water.

Edit: Oh, and to the OP, I think BMC would market goat-sweat flavored light beer if there was a market for it.

Grammar check, aisle 9...

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Grammar check, aisle 9...

You should read all my posts and get back to me. :cross:

 

[Hegh]

You should read all my posts and get back to me. :cross:

I'll be sure to do that

Only reason I caught that was there were so many errors in the first post I almost thought it should have been in the drunken ramblings forum...

 

[Synovia]

Hmm, I didn't get much of an adjunct profile at all. If they told me it was 2-row some crystal malts and cascades I would believe it.

Yeah, me neither. I liked Bud American Ale. I think a lot of people let their hate of BMC blind them here.

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Yeah, me neither. I liked Bud American Ale. I think a lot of people let their hate of BMC blind them here.

I can't say I will ever buy it again, but I think it's a step in a new direction. I hope it is succesful