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My fermentation chamber is an EdgeStar kegerator that my wife found at a yard sale for $100. As a bonus I got a spare CO2 tank with regulator, a sanke keg, and another tap.

Before that, I used a small chest freezer but it was awkward. It holds fish and meat now.
 
An all-fridge certainly exists, I was just commenting that they aren't common. Yes you found one at what sounds like a local store, but at Lowe's/HD/Sears, etc, maybe they have 1 to choose from out of a few dozen fridges. All this means you are way less likely to find one on CL. If I go search chest freezer right now on Denver CL, I'd expect no less than a dozen results. Just trying to be realistic for someone looking for one. Not everyone jumping into fermenting or kegging wants to drop almost a grand on an appliance. I've had 3 chest freezers in my 10 year brewing history and never spent more than $50, and I even made money on one; they are very easy to sell if you don't permanently modify it.

Have you ever lifted kegs into a chest freezer? I would say putting kegs in my fridge was far from easy. Like I said, you are crouching/bending over since you have to go horizontally into a low space. That is much more difficult than standing and lifting something straight up high (since, conveniently, the keg handles are right at the height of most peoples' hands, so there is no bending over at all). Set it on the freezer lip, then lower it back straight down. As you said, as soon as you make a second shelf to fit more than 4-5 kegs, you are lifting kegs now even higher than a chest freezer. You also need a shelf that can hold 250 lbs. I can see where an older person, short person, or a female might struggle to lift the 50lb keg 30" to a chest freezer lip, but a male in his 20s/30s/40s, what is that.. 97% of the people on here? :) 50lbs bit not THAT heavy.
1/4 barrel?? Don't even ask how hard that is to get on the bottom shelf of a fridge! It sucks. But throwing it in a chest freezer is a breeze.

Also, head room. Kegs in a chest freezer with open lid has wide open head room to work with your hoses, qds, tapping sankes, adding/removing/moving kegs around, etc. If you have two rows of kegs in an all fridge, (Or kegs in a normal fridge), the head space is fairly limited, and I just get frustrated easily, trying to hook up stuff, move hoses around, reaching to the back to deal with those kegs, etc, again, all while kneeling or crouching.

In a chest freezer, I can remove any keg without disturbing the others, tend to leaks or change fittings/qds, remove beer hoses for cleaning, etc all while standing. If you have 5 kegs in a fridge and a back one kicks?? Not fun.

I agree, use what works best for you. But someone just getting into this may not think of these things, so they don't know what works for them. I've done both, so I have a good idea of the pros and cons of both and just trying to educate someone trying to decide. Like I said I def. have my eye out for an all fridge for my morebeer conical. They are perfect for that. But I have a feeling, due to price, I'll end up with an upright freezer. I've never seen an upright all fridge on CL.

You raise a lot of good points. I think there is are good reasons why chest freezers are so common. And Yes, I had a keezer for about two years. I am well familiar with what it takes to lift a full keg up into it.

I only stuck my nose in this thread because I didn't feel the all refrigerator was being given it's fair share of 'pros'.

I agree with all of your points in favor of a chest freezer in this post except for the lifting part. I'm fine with agreeing to disagree on that point!

Brew on...
 
Mongoose33: I'm interested in your C02 bulkhead. What did you use to secure those JIC fittings to the fridge wall?
 
Mongoose33: I'm interested in your C02 bulkhead. What did you use to secure those JIC fittings to the fridge wall?

Not sure what you mean by "JIC fittings" but the bulkhead shank I used was from here:

https://www.chicompany.net/index.ph...ucts_id=2262&zenid=8obp57aou9pb8svucrq0a69og4

The shank has a rubber washer, a very thin nylon "washer," and a nut. You can see that in this pic if you look very closely:

bulkheadshank.jpg

I simply drilled a hole through the refrigerator side, and used the nuts to hold the shank in place. In my case, I had to omit the rubber washers as there is only so much room with the shortest one, but that worked just fine.

BTW, before I plunged a 7/16" drill bit through the refrigerator side, I drilled a small 1/8" hole just far enough to get through the outer skin. I then used a piece of wire to probe inside that holes to make sure I wasn't going to hit a refrigeration line. I was 95 percent certain there weren't any (the sides don't get warm, there's a fan underneath), but this fridge works so well for what I want it to do, that I wasn't taking any chances.
 
Not sure what you mean by "JIC fittings" but the bulkhead shank I used was from here:

https://www.chicompany.net/index.ph...ucts_id=2262&zenid=8obp57aou9pb8svucrq0a69og4

The shank has a rubber washer, a very thin nylon "washer," and a nut. You can see that in this pic if you look very closely:

View attachment 417160

I simply drilled a hole through the refrigerator side, and used the nuts to hold the shank in place. In my case, I had to omit the rubber washers as there is only so much room with the shortest one, but that worked just fine.

BTW, before I plunged a 7/16" drill bit through the refrigerator side, I drilled a small 1/8" hole just far enough to get through the outer skin. I then used a piece of wire to probe inside that holes to make sure I wasn't going to hit a refrigeration line. I was 95 percent certain there weren't any (the sides don't get warm, there's a fan underneath), but this fridge works so well for what I want it to do, that I wasn't taking any chances.

JIC (Joint Industry Council) is what those 37º flare fittings are often called. Love that bulkhead!
 
And though not an "ideal" mating to what's probably a 45 degree flare seat, should work good for brewers use with a thorough leak check after install.

I like the bulkhead fitting too.

You need to use a small nylon flare washer for that to seal. I don't know if the surfaces are perfectly mated to each other, but the washer takes care of that. No evidence of leaks.

This is the one I'm talking about; it's the smallest one:

https://www.chicompany.net/common-i...gs/flare-fittings/nylon-flare-fitting-washers
 
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