Why do people have to half a$$ jobs

[Jonnio]

I just read the IRC and it said the same thing. But the key words are "ground fault circuit interrupter protection". This doesn't mean every receptacle has to be a GFCI receptacle. It just means every receptacle on the countertop has to have that protection. So, if this can be achieved by having a GFCI receptacle up the line from regular receptacles, then that would work too.

Yeah, I misworded the original post, they weren't protected, I do realize that one GFCI outlet can provide protection for the entire string of outlets if it is wired correctly.

 

[wihophead]

This was my argument - the outlets were not GFI protected. They said they were too far from the sink, so they didn't need to be. I argued until I was blue in the face and just fixed it myself.

I think that only applies to a wet bar....where in the hell was the inspector...

 

[menschmaschine]

This was my argument - the outlets were not GFI protected. They said they were too far from the sink, so they didn't need to be. I argued until I was blue in the face and just fixed it myself.

That sucks that you had to pay for it! Here's the IRC reference. It's pretty clear:

E3802.6 Kitchen receptacles. All 125-volt, single-phase, 15-
and 20-ampere receptacles that serve countertop surfaces shall
have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel.

 

[Jonnio]

I think that only applies to a wet bar....where in the hell was the inspector...

I was wondering the same thing.

Here's the IRC reference. It's pretty clear:

I quoted that to them as well, but they just said it wasn't the same electrical code, when they said that I didn't take the time to go dig out what version of the NEC the local area used, I just chalked it up to a learning experience and moved on. Hehe, anyway, that's all done and over with.

 

[Jonnio]

For those of you following my rant -- Apparently we came a lot closer to losing our house than I had originally thought. I cut a hole in the sheetrock looking for the wire and didn't find it, so I went up to the attic digging around. Here is what I found.

 

[Chriso]

Whoa! That's scary as **** man! I'm glad you were able to find the cause - and BEFORE it became serious!!!

 

[Jonnio]

Whoa! That's scary as **** man! I'm glad you were able to find the cause - and BEFORE it became serious!!!

Yeah, I about crapped my pants when I saw that...I am very glad for the invention of arc fault circuit breakers.

 

[Bernie Brewer]

For those of you following my rant -- Apparently we came a lot closer to losing our house than I had originally thought. I cut a hole in the sheetrock looking for the wire and didn't find it, so I went up to the attic digging around. Here is what I found.

Nice! On the bright side, you are able to fix it without ripping up your walls!

 

[Jonnio]

Nice! On the bright side, you are able to fix it without ripping up your walls!

Yup, a junction box and about 20 minutes to fix the exploratory hole I cut and I am good to go.

 

[RIBeer]

We currently rent the upstairs apartment from my in-laws while we save for our own house. My FIL insists on only going with the cheapest estimate he can get for repair work, so here's where the apartment currently stands.

1. Electrical work started 2004 - contractor upgraded outlets to 3-prong grounded ones. Also ran a new 220 line for the stove. Result: 3 outlets still don't work, I had to repair the 2x2 hole they smashed in the kitchen wall to run a 1" wire, and we still have no outlets in the kitchen - everything is run on extension cords from the hallway and living room. Quote from August 2004: "We'll be back next week to finish the job". FIL won't call them back because he's not sure how much they billed him for the job and doesn't think he should have to spend any more money on it.

2. Fence installed around side yard to contain kids -we live on a busy street, and people take the corner like they're in the last freaking lap of the Indy 500. MIL didn't shut the gate and the wind blew it open and back shut, breaking the latch off and shattering a good portion of the gate. Contractor called 2 months later - showed up 3 weeks later, said "I'll be back next week - I have to order the parts" This was September of 2007....

3. Original windows were replaced 10 years ago. The seals for the double panes all failed within a year, making the windows impossible to see through. FIL called them back and they were replaced. Happened again within a year - never called them back. Stairway window and big picture window are still original and so rotten I could push them out of the house without an effort. Got a call at work yesterday that a contractor was coming to replace them that day, and that I needed to move everything away from the windows. contractor never showed. Any bets on when they will be replaced? My guess is June of 2010. Doesn't really matter though - house is on one thermostat downstairs - set it at 60 there, we have to keep 2 windows open all winter or it hits 80. Probably better off with the rotten windows.


The moral of the story is.....You get what you pay for!

 

[MoRoToRiUm]

Wow... Sorry, I take pride in my work(even if I don't like it). I can not believe what some people try to do. Shop was cutting/welding part of my Jeep frame that had rust, decided to replace the body mounts when I had it in there- Duct tape to cover the access holes? Really? Wow...

Yea, I moved out of my last apartment (also trying to save money) after a year because they were going to replace the blown glass windows (with no storm windows) and they never did. All that money wasted on heat (and a week with no heat when heat pump froze) and I never got the deposit back. Renter conveniently 'disappeared' for a few months. Their son was the same year/friend as my sister through her entire schooling! Rode the same bus and knew where they live; sometimes I really wish I had the money, time, and was enough of an a$$hole to sue some businesses/individuals for what they do.

 

[Laurel]

Yikes! Yet another reason I'm glad that we bought a house custom built for the old people that owned it previously. They bought the best and paid for people to come do everything properly. The house may be 35 years old, but mechanically, it's in better shape than most new construction.