Why can't you just tip the cooler a bit to drain it all out?

[Whiskey]

No tipping here. I usually only have about a cup left anyways. However it would make sense if your setup has a lot of dead space.

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

Why can't you just tip the cooler a bit to drain it all out?

Because then the beer would be unbalanced.

 

[DavidSteel]

Because then the beer would be unbalanced.

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhha

 

[RichBenn]

Maybe we need a poll - tippers vs. not. I'm in the (carefull) book/2x4/ whatever I can find tipper group

 

[ChshreCat]

The question is... how much do you tip? I think 20% is standard.

 

[beerloin]

The question is... how much do you tip? I think 20% is standard.

I almost tip to 90 degrees!

i guess im frugal tho...
i paid for that grain so i will get every last bit out of it!

 

[Krelja]

I was a tipper as well for a while but I kicked the habit.



Actually my new tun is a converted keggle wrapped in 2 times with reflectix and jaybird FB and a bottom drain. I guess I'm kinda cheating now

 

[Randar]

I tip. Why would you leave good wort behind?

If you tip earlier in the mash you tilt the grain bed and end up with an uneven grain bed. This will lead to filtering via the "path of least resistance" and most likely it will impact your efficiency.

Drawback to doing it at the end of the mash is that you disturb the grain bed. If you have a huge grain bag or a SS braid, doing it at that point won't hurt you, really, IMO.


And to the quote I included here... if you measure, time, and match flow rates you shouldn't have to worry about getting some 1.007 or 1.008 runnings out of the tun and these will not really impact your observed specific gravity as you should halt your sparge once this point of thin-runnings is reached anyways. Now, if you're still pulling 1.020 when you "run dry", you could tip the tun, but I think that would be more an indication of an area to improve upon for future batches than anything else.

 

[Randar]

I do this with both of my 10 gallon and my 70 quarter Xtreme. They sometimes drain as much as a 1/2 gallon over 10-15 minutes when it appears the cooler is done draining. I want high efficiency and lots of wort.

But what is the gravity of the wort runoff at that point? Below 1.010?

 

[maida7]

Randar: Look back at the first post. Were talking about batch sparging.

 

[robertvrabel]

Here is a tip for tipping:

Just place some wood (in my case 2 2x4's stacked on each other) AFTER you are done mashing and BEFORE you start to run off. You want to do it this way so the grain bed settles on a slant. If you move your cooler around while already running off, your vorlauf was pointless as you'll start to not get clear wort. Repeat the same thing for sparge.

So thats it... there is nothing wrong with tipping and I don't see why you wouldn't do it unless you are really lazy. You'll get a lot more wort from your first runnings. In my case I use a rectangular cooler, and theres gotta be at least a 1/2 gallon of wort under there that I wouldn't get out.

 

[masonsjax]

I haven't had any trouble with the runoff getting cloudy again by tipping (rendering the vorlauf pointless). I'm not shaking up or stirring the mash, and tipping only moves the grain a little bit. A couple of 2x4s is what I've been using though, and sometimes I do tip as I start runoff so it settles on a slant. That works pretty well and you don' have to do any tipping.

 

[robertvrabel]

I haven't had any trouble with the runoff getting cloudy again by tipping (rendering the vorlauf pointless). I'm not shaking up or stirring the mash, and tipping only moves the grain a little bit. A couple of 2x4s is what I've been using though, and sometimes I do tip as I start runoff so it settles on a slant. That works pretty well and you don' have to do any tipping.

Each system is different, but if your going to "tip" you might as well do it prior to vorlauf just to be safe. In my system it gets cloudly after I try to tip, so I always setup the 2x4's before I start. The grain bed shifts a little upon lifting one end and thats enough to make a visible difference to the wort coming out in my system... so I always do it before now. Just figured i'd share that tip

 

[modernlifeisANDY]

 

[jgln]

So why doesn't everybody tip the MLT for a batch sparge? Seams like this should be common practice.

I do, I found a piece of firewood just the right size and shape for that purpose too for my rectangular cooler. While I am getting my wort up to boiling I am collecting about another 24 oz or so from draining the grain better. I keep pushing the grain to the back raised end so it drains completely. I still have some I just can't get out but that is just about an ounce.

 

[shanecb]

I tip mine usually. I don't get a LOT more out but it's enough to make it worth it. It doesn't mess my grain bed up or anything.

 

[dracus]

Mine has a false bottom and picks up like hair away from bottom. I doubt in my case tipping would make any difference at all as I do use tubbing from spigot so there ends up being a shipon.

I've had beer from ultra effecient systems those guys can keep their $2 a batch savings plus an extra hour. I'll stick with my batch sparging.

Personally I think tipping in the case of a braid may actually be better evening out the flow pattern.

 

[jgln]

Mine has a false bottom and picks up like hair away from bottom. I doubt in my case tipping would make any difference at all as I do use tubbing from spigot so there ends up being a shipon.

I've had beer from ultra effecient systems those guys can keep their $2 a batch savings plus an extra hour. I'll stick with my batch sparging.

Personally I think tipping in the case of a braid may actually be better evening out the flow pattern.

What?

 

[JetSmooth]

I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when the mash deserves a tip. When the mash really puts forth an effort, it deserves a little something extra.
But this tipping automatically, that stuff's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, it's just doin its job.

 

[passedpawn]

Used to, don't anymore. Efficiency is fine and I get all the wort I can use. If I ever get a pressure canner I'll tip in order to get more wort for making starters.

 

[maida7]

I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when the mash deserves a tip. When the mash really puts forth an effort, it deserves a little something extra.
But this tipping automatically, that stuff's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, it's just doin its job.

cheap ass!

 

[Denny]

I tip mine usually. I don't get a LOT more out but it's enough to make it worth it. It doesn't mess my grain bed up or anything.

I usually get about a cup extra by tipping, although it's been as much as 2 qt. at times. Either way, not enough to really matter. But I tip just for the curiosity factor to see how much is in there.

 

[shanecb]

But I tip just for the curiosity factor to see how much is in there.

I do for the same reason. Sometimes it ends up being more than I would have thought.

 

[Starderup]

Used to, don't anymore. Efficiency is fine and I get all the wort I can use. If I ever get a pressure canner I'll tip in order to get more wort for making starters.

You don't really need a pressure cooker if you have one or two empty quart jars. I have been using the tippings for that. Just leave a little space for expansion and freeze them. A few hours before you are ready to make a starter, thaw the wort.
And I often do get 2 quarts. That's enough motivation for me to tip.

 

[passedpawn]

You don't really need a pressure cooker if you have one or two empty quart jars. I have been using the tippings for that. Just leave a little space for expansion and freeze them. A few hours before you are ready to make a starter, thaw the wort.
And I often do get 2 quarts. That's enough motivation for me to tip.

Yea, you're right. Maybe I'll start doing that. Thanks.

 

[Memorex88]

one or two empty quart jars...... Just leave a little space for expansion and freeze them. .

I've been using plastic jars. So there's no worries of breaking a mason jar in the freezer?