White house beer

[Starderup]

Bud and honey are two entirely different things. The lighter honeys command higher prices. Like I said, I am a beekeeper, and I understand the product. If you prefer to think different, you are free.

 

[Starderup]

thats actually pretty cool. Never knew that before.

Yeah, when you capture a wild swarm, and watch it march into an empty hive row by row like a well disciplined army, and then open up that hive six months later and harvest 20 to 40 lbs of honey and leave them another 20 lbs to get through the winter, you learn a lot about them. They also will fly up as high as the tallest object in their path and not descend until they are at the nectar source. This is why beekeepers often build a ten foot fence between their hives and the orchards. That way, if there is a road in between, the bees are already safely high enough to not get hit by cars. It is an amazing symbiotic relationship we have with them.

 

[bdolce]

Is it 1 1/2 oz Fuggles or 1/2? The ingredients list says 1 1/2, the recipe steps say 1/2.

 

[TimpanogosSlim]

Bud and honey are two entirely different things. The lighter honeys command higher prices. Like I said, I am a beekeeper, and I understand the product. If you prefer to think different, you are free.

I think homebrewtalk is a place where we can all agree that marketability and desirability for a given purpose are two completely different things.

Yeah, when you capture a wild swarm, and watch it march into an empty hive row by row like a well disciplined army, and then open up that hive six months later and harvest 20 to 40 lbs of honey and leave them another 20 lbs to get through the winter, you learn a lot about them. They also will fly up as high as the tallest object in their path and not descend until they are at the nectar source. This is why beekeepers often build a ten foot fence between their hives and the orchards. That way, if there is a road in between, the bees are already safely high enough to not get hit by cars. It is an amazing symbiotic relationship we have with them.

Yes, but they will also get their sugar fix wherever they can find it

 

[Zuljin]

The lightest honeys are the highest grades. I am a beekeeper, so I know a little about it. Wildflower honey would be perfectly acceptable. You may not know this, but bees will keep the honey for different flowers separate. Watch a bee work some blossoms sometime. You'll notice she'll only go from one flower to another of the same species. Even another species of the same color will not be visited by that bee on that trip. I don't know why they do this, but that's how you can get 100% Pure Clover honey, because these little dynamos do that for us.

Say what? And I'm just asking here.

I can see them going to only one type of flower in a trip. Maybe in their little bee brains they figure if a red rose worked this time, a red rose will work next time too.

But when you say, "...bees will keep the honey for different flowers separate. ", what does that mean? Are honey, nectar and pollen interchangeable words? I figured once it got to the hive to be honey, it was all one mish mash of bee vomit.

 

[Monstar]

Aight, grains are toasted, here's how I'm doing it:

10.5 lb Pale
12 oz toasted @350 for 1/2 hour
8 oz toasted @ 300 for 25 min (homemade biscuit essentially)

Hops and honey to the recipe, mash at 150, ferment at 63 with S05.

This might actually be kinda good!

 

[winvarin]

This is why I love brewing. Inspiration can strike anywhere and you are limited by only your imagination. Less than a couple of days ago these arguably simple recipes were made available. The "young" brewers among us found something already approachable. The more adventurous have already used the recipes as a springboard to make them our own.

This is the single greatest craft on the planet.

If I didn't mind the Secret Service showing up at my door, I'd be tempted to send a couple of bottles of my planned version of the porter to the White House.

 

[mrwizard0]

Is anyone surprised that Obama is even brewing it himself? It looks like his chefs are doing it for him. What fun is that?

 

[WaltStarr]

I'm hoping that beer brewing becomes a standard in the white house kitchen. With any luck, maybe they'll start all grain brewing at some point! Possibly even all electric grain brewing!

 

[RobertRGeorge]

Thanks, two beers I'm certain not to make.

I'm guessing that's because you are either an all-grain brewing snob or you don't like honey ale or honey porter, because they otherwise seem pretty inoffensive to me.

 

[passedpawn]

Is anyone surprised that Obama is even [not] brewing it himself? It looks like his chefs are doing it for him. What fun is that?

I can't tell if these posts are serious.

Obama is the president of the United States, and arguably the most influential leader on earth. I hope no one here thinks he is homebrewing himself. He can do that when he's done presidenting.

 

[DaBills]

I can't tell if these posts are serious.

Obama is the president of the United States, and arguably the most influential leader on earth. I hope no one here thinks he is homebrewing himself. He can do that when he's done presidenting.

Yes, yes, and yes. Nail on the head.

 

[Zuljin]

More Beer says they package their lme in foil bags. Looks like the bags in the video are clear.

William's Brewing sells in clear pouches. They also have their logo on their buckets. The video has buckets with a B on them.

Those B buckets come from brewersbestkits.com. So I went there and used their retailer locator. The retailer that came up by the zip code of the White House, 20500, is

MY LOCAL HOMEBREW SHOP
6201 Leesburg Pike #3
Falls Church, VA. 22044 US
Telephone: (703) 241-3874

Then again, they aren't the only retailer to sell Brewer's Best gear.

LD Carlson sells a lot of their products in clear bags. Given their product is everywhere, there's a good chance it's theirs.

Wait. Do they sell lme?

 

[TimpanogosSlim]

There's at least one LHBS here in Utah that sells LME in clear plastic bags. I'm sure they buy it by the barrel and fill bags from that.

I have a morebeer LME bag here. Found it at a freight salvage dealer's storefront, they had a whole bunch of 'em. I figured 11 pounds of light LME for $7 was a good deal. One of these days i need to make a bunch of canned wort from it for starters.

I wouldn't characterize their bag as foil - more metalized plastic.

 

[bottlebomber]

More Beer says they package their lme in foil bags. Looks like the bags in the video are clear.

William's Brewing sells in clear pouches. They also have their logo on their buckets. The video has buckets with a B on them.

Those B buckets come from brewersbestkits.com. So I went there and used their retailer locator. The retailer that came up by the zip code of the White House, 20500, is

MY LOCAL HOMEBREW SHOP
6201 Leesburg Pike #3
Falls Church, VA. 22044 US
Telephone: (703) 241-3874

Then again, they aren't the only retailer to sell Brewer's Best gear.

LD Carlson sells a lot of their products in clear bags. Given their product is everywhere, there's a good chance it's theirs.

Wait. Do they sell lme?

Nice detective work, Ace!

 

[dtow2]

The lightest honeys are the highest grades. I am a beekeeper, so I know a little about it. Wildflower honey would be perfectly acceptable. You may not know this, but bees will keep the honey for different flowers separate. Watch a bee work some blossoms sometime. You'll notice she'll only go from one flower to another of the same species. Even another species of the same color will not be visited by that bee on that trip. I don't know why they do this, but that's how you can get 100% Pure Clover honey, because these little dynamos do that for us.

I'll be starting bee keeping next spring. I have a local bee keeper to help me out. I've been using his honey all year in making a honey cream ale. And man do my fellow drinkers love it. The alcohol is usually around a 7.5 to 8%.
3 weeks ago i got 30 pounds of uncapped honey. I have two carboys going now using uncapped honey. It has a strong flavor to it. I got the uncapped honey for a dollar a pound because its moisture is too high for him to sell it. I'll be putting it on tap this Saturday!

 

[Revvy]

With all the cherry trees/blossoms in the Washington DC area, especially around the white house. I wonder if that has any influence on the flavor of the honey they're harvesting?

 

[passedpawn]

With all the cherry trees/blossoms in the Washington DC area, especially around the white house. I wonder if that has any influence on the flavor of the honey they're harvesting?

Now that would make it unique! Those cherry blossom trees were gifts from the emperor of Japan a long time ago. I think.

 

[WaltStarr]

Well, I just ordered the ingredients from Norther Brewer and should be ready to go next weekend.

 

[midlantic]

I'm hoping that beer brewing becomes a standard in the white house kitchen. With any luck, maybe they'll start all grain brewing at some point! Possibly even all electric grain brewing!

I agree with the spirit behind this idea. I'm guessing that the White House kitchen may have already expanded past the amount of equipment shown in the video -- they must be used to anticipating all kinds of sudden unexpected demands, and don't want to be caught short if the President decides to invite 100 veterans over for beer next weekend and wants to offer the house bottle, for example. They may well be churning out a lot more than 5 gallons a month as we speak.

I think it would be great if future presidents also had their own style -- over the years, I think it would be a great way to track changing tastes and preferences, and I hope they keep the tradition growing.

I seem to remember that Reagan was a big booster of California wines and helped a bit in making them more respected internationally by serving them a lot when he was President. Maybe Obama could do just a little of that for US beer as well.

 

[wetzie]

I think this is so cool. George Washingtons distillery is a national land mark and this makes me so proud that the White House did this.

 

[Monstar]

Spargin'. Color looks pretty damn close to the video!

 

[Zuljin]

I agree with the spirit behind this idea. I'm guessing that the White House kitchen may have already expanded past the amount of equipment shown in the video -- they must be used to anticipating all kinds of sudden unexpected demands, and don't want to be caught short if the President decides to invite 100 veterans over for beer next weekend and wants to offer the house bottle, for example. They may well be churning out a lot more than 5 gallons a month as we speak.

I think it would be great if future presidents also had their own style -- over the years, I think it would be a great way to track changing tastes and preferences, and I hope they keep the tradition growing.

I seem to remember that Reagan was a big booster of California wines and helped a bit in making them more respected internationally by serving them a lot when he was President. Maybe Obama could do just a little of that for US beer as well.

This would be a cool new tradition, and we could brew them all.

Spargin'. Color looks pretty damn close to the video!

 

[Monstar]

Back atcha, Zuljin.

 

[alestateyall]

I think I will brew some White House Honey Ale to serve on election night.

 

[Monstar]

I think I will brew some White House Honey Ale to serve on election night.

Hell ya!

 

[passedpawn]

Hell ya!

Heh, I'm down with that. Not an O, but I'd brew one of these on election night. Hell yeah. That'd be fun. November what?

 

[Pappers_]

I think I will brew some White House Honey Ale to serve on election night.

That's a very interesting idea!

 

[passedpawn]

That's a very interesting idea!

Pappers, are you gonna do it? I'll do it if you do it.

 

[mrwizard0]

Do you think Mitt Romney would continue to brew beer if he was elected? Even if he doesn't drink he could still continue the tradition