White house beer

[jmm20010]

Is it ironic that you can brew beer in the White House but not in Alabama?

 

[DaBills]

In Russia, stout drink you!

Haha I chuckled at this one.

 

[chessking]

Who knows if Obama will brew in the future, but those Navy Stewards looked like they will be brewing for the rest of their life. They may be hooked.

Also, it appears that I'm not the only one who brews on one level, and ferments in the basement. I'm sure they have an elevator, but humping up and down the stairs is familiar.

 

[DaBills]

Who knows if Obama will brew in the future, but those Navy Stewards looked like they will be brewing for the rest of their life. They may be hooked.

Also, it appears that I'm not the only one who brews on one level, and ferments in the basement. I'm sure they have an elevator, but humping up and down the stairs is familiar.

That's what I do too. Good for the health.

 

[DaBills]

Is it ironic that you can brew beer in the White House but not in Alabama?

So if you live in Alabama or Mississippi... Will a place like Austin Homebrew Supply or Northern Brewer not ship to you? Just curious. Super lame that there are homebrewing laws BTW.

 

[winvarin]

So, Obama isn't really a homebrewer. He just had the kitchen make him some beer.

So what you're saying is "He didn't brew that. He didn't make that happen"?

Not trying to start a political riot. I just know funny when I see it

 

[alestateyall]

So if you live in Alabama or Mississippi... Will a place like Austin Homebrew Supply or Northern Brewer not ship to you? Just curious. Super lame that there are homebrewing laws BTW.

They ship to us. It is not illegal to posses malt, yeast, and hops. We can make bread out of those.

Also, in MS the head of the Alcohol Beverage Control department said in our largest paper that home brewing is illegal but it is not seen as a problem and therefore the ABC does not enforce that law. She did say she can't stop local DA's and Sheriffs from enforcing the laws.

 

[DaBills]

They ship to us. It is not illegal to posses malt, yeast, and hops. We can make bread out of those.

Also, in MS the head of the Alcohol Beverage Control department said in our largest paper that home brewing is illegal but it is not seen as a problem and therefore the ABC does not enforce that law. She did say she can't stop local DA's and Sheriffs from enforcing the laws.

Ohh ok somewhat decriminalized in MS. Glad to hear you can get equipment/supplies shipped to you. You're a modern day bootlegger! Hahaha

 

[iBrewBeer]

Anyone else notice the Assistant White House Chef used a "paddle thermometer" in his brew kettle? Now I'm wondering why I waste time with a standard probe type?

Paddle thermometers run around $10 online......Prolly work good inside a mash tun too.

 

[winvarin]

Ohh ok somewhat decriminalized in MS. Glad to hear you can get equipment/supplies shipped to you. You're a modern day bootlegger! Hahaha

Homebrewing is legal in Oklahoma, but you're supposed to apply for a free homebrewer and wine maker license. When talking to an employee of our state's alcohol licensing commission, I asked him if he would ticket or arrest me if I was brewing without a license. His answer? "I've got 3000 plus bars and restaurants and a dozen new breweries in this state and less than 10 inspectors. As long as you're not selling your beer out of the trunk of your car, you'll never even hit my radar."

We are by and large an easy going bunch who just love our craft. I think, in most cases, the authorities are content to look the other way, regardless of the letter of the law where homebrewing is cncerned

 

[squonk32]

I'm not an Obama supporter but I think its cool.

 

[mrshort77]

That said, I think it is totally cool that the White House if brewing. Yes, the recipes show that they are newbies, we all started that way. No politics, no slamming who, and who else. I might just try a grain version of the Porter just for the fun of it. Grain version, mostly because I am not too sure about their "micro mash" they seem to have going on there.

 

[DaBills]

Homebrewing is legal in Oklahoma, but you're supposed to apply for a free homebrewer and wine maker license. When talking to an employee of our state's alcohol licensing commission, I asked him if he would ticket or arrest me if I was brewing without a license. His answer? "I've got 3000 plus bars and restaurants and a dozen new breweries in this state and less than 10 inspectors. As long as you're not selling your beer out of the trunk of your car, you'll never even hit my radar."

We are by and large an easy going bunch who just love our craft. I think, in most cases, the authorities are content to look the other way, regardless of the letter of the law where homebrewing is cncerned

Yeahp they've got bigger fish to fry.

 

[Starderup]

I just finished cleanup on my all grain version. I didn't hit my gravity, but sure got my volume. I had a 1056 starter ready, and was going to do Beirmuncher's Three Crops, but decided at the last minute to do a Labor Day Honey Ale. Ended up with 1.048. My efficiency wasn't as good as usual for some reason, but this is not supposed to be a big beer anyway. It had really nice color and aroma, but I used my own hop schedule - Simcoe for bittering, and Palisades at 30 and 0.

 

[Monstar]

I'm gonna brew AG versions of both of these with my home roasted grains.

But no way am I going to use Windsor!

 

[DaBills]

I just finished cleanup on my all grain version. I didn't hit my gravity, but sure got my volume. I had a 1056 starter ready, and was going to do Beirmuncher's Three Crops, but decided at the last minute to do a Labor Day Honey Ale. Ended up with 1.048. My efficiency wasn't as good as usual for some reason, but this is not supposed to be a big beer anyway. It had really nice color and aroma, but I used my own hop schedule - Simcoe for bittering, and Palisades at 30 and 0.

Nice, let us know how it turns out.

 

[RockChalkBrewer]

What liquid yeast would be a good substitute in the recipes?

 

[Yuri_Rage]

This thread is about beer. If I have to babysit it one iota, it will get closed. If you post ANY political commentary in this technical forum, I will ban you for three days, no questions asked. Carry on.

A reminder.

Thanks to most of you for keeping this on topic.

 

[Starderup]

This might have been a 'home rolled' beer kit. Both the hops and yeast suggest an English beer. But I give them all credit for not buying BMC. I'm hoping I can crack open a few a couple months from now and enjoy them.

 

[Starderup]

What liquid yeast would be a good substitute in the recipes?

Any clean American Ale yeast.
Wyeast 1056, WLP 001. My favorite substitute is S-05. None of the hassle and cheaper, and it is just as good as a performer. Nottingham is another option.
Windsor is a dry English yeast. Don't know why that and the Fuggles are in there.

 

[nickharbour]

What liquid yeast would be a good substitute in the recipes?

I'd go with a normal clean ale yest, WLP001 or Wyeast 1056. I don't think their change of yeast varieties between the light and the dark version is really necessary.

 

[nickharbour]

Does anybody have any information on the style of honey they are using?

 

[Starderup]

They are using honey from the White House beehives. Any Grade A honey from your local supermarket is fine. The finest honey in the world is White Clover. Orange honey would also be excellent here. Get light colored honey. It tends to be more desirable.

 

[TimpanogosSlim]

Any clean American Ale yeast.
Wyeast 1056, WLP 001. My favorite substitute is S-05. None of the hassle and cheaper, and it is just as good as a performer. Nottingham is another option.
Windsor is a dry English yeast. Don't know why that and the Fuggles are in there.

Same reason the biscuit malt is in there. because it appears to be based on an english pale / english special bitter recipe.

 

[TimpanogosSlim]

They are using honey from the White House beehives. Any Grade A honey from your local supermarket is fine. The finest honey in the world is White Clover. Orange honey would also be excellent here. Get light colored honey. It tends to be more desirable.

more desirable in what way?

A good argument can be made for trying wildflower honey in this recipe, because of the wide variety of flowers near the whitehouse.

 

[CastleHollow]

Since theirs comes from an apiary next to the White House Garden, my guess is you'd get similar results from local wildflower honey from the DC/Maryland/Northern Virginia area.

Here's an old WP article, some of these producers may ship if you are trying for a reasonable "clone." Otherwise, something local to your area is probably just fine.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/18/AR2007091800465.html

 

[Starderup]

The lightest honeys are the highest grades. I am a beekeeper, so I know a little about it. Wildflower honey would be perfectly acceptable. You may not know this, but bees will keep the honey for different flowers separate. Watch a bee work some blossoms sometime. You'll notice she'll only go from one flower to another of the same species. Even another species of the same color will not be visited by that bee on that trip. I don't know why they do this, but that's how you can get 100% Pure Clover honey, because these little dynamos do that for us.

 

[Starderup]

Since theirs comes from an apiary next to the White House Garden, my guess is you'd get similar results from local wildflower honey from the DC/Maryland/Northern Virginia area.

Here's an old WP article, some of these producers may ship if you are trying for a reasonable "clone." Otherwise, something local to your area is probably just fine.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/18/AR2007091800465.html

That is very interesting. You'd probably have to buy a few and evaluate them, but the flavor notes they talk about could make for a massively complex flavor profile in a beer if done right.
Thanks.

 

[TimpanogosSlim]

The lightest honeys are the highest grades. I am a beekeeper, so I know a little about it. Wildflower honey would be perfectly acceptable.

Sure, but that's like saying that Bud Light is the most desirable beer. It must be, as it holds the most market share. It's quite pure and uniform in flavor. Beer of the highest grade, certainly.

But I'm a guy who buys wildflower honey and grade B maple syrup. Because i like the flavor. And it turns out i want a little more out of my beer than Bud Light has to offer, too.

 

[SouthBay]

The lightest honeys are the highest grades. I am a beekeeper, so I know a little about it. Wildflower honey would be perfectly acceptable. You may not know this, but bees will keep the honey for different flowers separate. Watch a bee work some blossoms sometime. You'll notice she'll only go from one flower to another of the same species. Even another species of the same color will not be visited by that bee on that trip. I don't know why they do this, but that's how you can get 100% Pure Clover honey, because these little dynamos do that for us.

thats actually pretty cool. Never knew that before.